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[–]dramasexual 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

lmao am I the only one around here who voted for oranj man?

[–]onetwothree123 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

No, I voted for orange man too. I don't give a shit about trans people in the military, but I care about the economy and bringing jobs back to the US (rather than relying on slave labor overseas). I do believe we need to work towards clean energy, and I do care about the climate, but I don't think the democrats have a realistic picture of what's currently possible with the technology we have. Innovation has never happened because it was forced out by the government. The other reason I voted for Trump is because I don't want the government to have a monopoly on healthcare. I'm not entirely opposed to the government paying for healthcare (as long as there is at least a small fee so people don't start taking it for granted), but private companies also have a right to exist. The government will not pay healthcare workers as well as the private companies they currently work for do, so if the democrats succeed in getting universal healthcare, I would probably have to move out of the house I'm currently living in, completely change my lifestyle, and I would lose my good health insurance.

[–]dramasexual 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I don't like Trump but I found him to be the best of two bad options. I also find it incredibly bizarre to watch feminists (here and on Ovarit) scold people of even thinking about voting for Trump and daring to consider themselves feminist and then gasping in overwrought shock as if they'd been betrayed when Biden did exactly what he promised to do on his first day in office. Like, this was literally in his platform. You either knew what you were voting for and didn't care because you bought some bullshit line about Trump being literally Hitler, or you didn't know, because you just did what you were told without bothering to actually look into the candidate you were casting your vote for. Either way, if you find this EO unexpected you're a fucking idiot.

[–]ShotsFired 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I found him to be the best of two bad options.

can I ask why?

[–]dramasexual 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Aside from things like obliterating women's sports, I think people really underestimate how terrifying the democrats have gotten. This Orwellian censorship drive, the lying-to-us-for-our-own-good that many democrat leaders have engaged in. The idea that "dangerous ideas" or "dangerous speech" need to be censored and that anyone who says otherwise needs to be ruined. The wholly unscientific exhortations to "have faith in the science" (if you have to have faith in it, it's not science). The democratic party has swung incredibly authoritarian incredibly fast and it's going absolutely nowhere good.

Trump is a blustery narcissist, but he's fundamentally harmless. And before anyone says anything about the capitol riot, that wasn't really about Trump. That is a large swath of the country that has grown so fed up with our oligarchical ruling political class that they're reaching the point where they want to burn it all down. These people elected Trump precisely because he's not a typical politician. Trump isn't the problem. Trump is a warning. It's not being listened to, and that isn't going to lead anywhere good either.

[–]ShotsFired 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was expecting better reasons tbh. Those seem a little petty/childish to me. I can see where you're coming from though.

[–]dramasexual 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Worrying about authoritarians having control of the country is petty or childish? I'd love to hear the reasoning for that one.

Actually nvm, no I wouldn't. Asking for an explanation like you give a shit when you're just looking for an excuse to namecall is not the kind of dipshittery you see from someone with opinions worth hearing.

[–]ShotsFired 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But I didn't call you any names... I said those reasons seemed petty and childish to me. Relax 😅

[–]Anniesworld 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope I voted for him too and got into a few arguments about it in the last political thread. If you want you can look up my reasons for voting ( link below)since I had to defend myself from people who think lesbians should owe loyalty to the democratic party and seem to not be able to click direct links supporting my reasons for thinking trump's not what they think.

I wanted to call out lavalanch17 since she once again is being a little bit nasty to people with opposing views. I highly doubt you are a lawyer, you can't argue effectively. As shown by the linked thread. ( I hope that your personal life is doing better lavalanch17)

https://saidit.net/comments/6rcc/comment/q140