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[–]zephyranthes 5 insightful - 9 fun5 insightful - 8 fun6 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

I had a crush on a boy, wanted to marry him and be a loving, dutiful, and 100% obedient wife. He was my first real friend, you see, and older (16 to my 13), and knew lots of fascinating stuff. But I didn't want to do anything dirty - why? Eww!

Generally, boys were awesome. But not that one, or that one, or indeed anyone in my class (idiots, with a couple exceptions good enough to talk videogames with), or anyone younger (haha toddlers) or older (brutish alcoholics). Really, had I ever thought about it, I'd have noticed that while boys in general might be "awesome", sharing in the Glorious Male Spirit, only my friend was a deserving representative.

And girls drooled. Droooooooooled. Dumb bimbos, all of them. Except that one, she's smart. Or that one, she's not book-smart but awesomely mischievous. Or that one, she's more awesome than me. Or that one, she's so beautiful, why is she so beautiful? I want to hold her hand or something. Again, had I ever thought about it, I'd have noticed that while girls were undoubtedly dumb bimbos, nine out of ten were exceptions.


As for "political" lesbians, where I am, this label is exclusively claimed by radical female separatists, and I'm fine with it. A woman who actively seeks potentially romantic friendships with women and has zero interest in men going forward is a lesbian if she says she is.

[–]VioletRemi 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

As for "political" lesbians, where I am, this label is exclusively claimed by radical female separatists, and I'm fine with it. A woman who actively seeks potentially romantic friendships with women and has zero interest in men going forward is a lesbian if she says she is.

Well, because of bisexual women who dated at first only women and political lesbians like that who are calling themselves lesbians, and then ending up with men after 10-20 years or more - there is spreaded that belief that lesbians are just "waiting for correct man", which is harmful, especially for younger lesbians. At least in places where I live, and from what I've heard about how society is perceiving lesbians in USA or Canada. Plus because "anyone can call themself lesbian" - men are starting to do that too, which is annoying.

[–]Elvira95 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So wise.

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    As for "political" lesbians, where I am, this label is exclusively claimed by radical female separatists, and I'm fine with it. A woman who actively seeks potentially romantic friendships with women and has zero interest in men going forward is a lesbian if she says she is.

    Disagreed. And I think it's really odd that you mention women who are attracted to men as being lesbians just because they say so when this thread is about goldstar experiences not "political lesbians." Lesbianism isn't an identity you can put on like a coat just because you're tired of men; it's an innate sexual orientation of women who are only attracted to women. That's so disturbing that you'd bring this libfem idea of "anyone is anything they say they are and no one can question it/self-identification is sacred" here.

    "Political lesbians" are straight and bi women who are attracted to men (AKA not lesbian) and their desire to focus on women is usually driven by negative experiences with men rather than positive experiences with women and they're always homophobic, which is typical of women who think they can choose to be gay instead of just admitting they're bi/straight and don't want to be with men. They're appropriating an identity that doesn't belong to them; why can't they just say they're female separatists since that's more accurate than them being lesbians? Also, a lot of them say they don't want anything to do with men until FOMO hits them at 30-35 then suddenly they do, which is again not something that would happen to a lesbian.