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[–]lmaonope333 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

alternatively, accusing lesbians of having "toxic masculinity" is lesbophobic. and if you were a true ally you'd respect this as a lesbian only space and you wouldn't be posting here. and it's funny how you think that straight women fight for lesbian rights, you are just pulling that opinion out of your ass

[–]Lesbianese 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

it's funny how you think that straight women fight for lesbian rights

Especially the type of heterosexual women we complain about most. Those women really don't care about us, if they did they wouldn't be pushing to redefine "lesbian" to include them and telling us that we can't be real lesbians because we aren't inclusive of women who are attracted to men and insist they're lesbians.

[–]pixipod 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's funny how you think that straight women fight for lesbian rights

This. Straight women typically don't care about lesbians at all. Finding a straight woman who actually thinks about and is interested in lesbian's voices, our experiences etc is actually a nice surprise. I find straight women who consider themselves LGBT allies are really only concerned with gay men, their voices, their experiences.

[–]yousaythosethings 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I just want to say that this is at least partially an offshoot of the fact that gay men have generally been the face of the gay rights movement, and I think that’s at least in part because the general public saw/still sees gay men as a bigger threat than gay women. Lesbians were so invisible that when I was younger and liking girls and learned about homosexuality, I still didn’t connect that that was me because the discussion was always about gay men (see “It’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve” and Brokeback Mountain).

Since my closest friends are straight women, I have the good fortune of knowing straight women who are willing to listen to me and to learn about lesbian issues specifically, but if I didn’t tell them, they’d never know. And if I’d didn’t experience it myself, I don’t think that I’d know either.

But yea, someone who should know better, and comes here and sees the context of the comments she complains about is being a willfully obtuse selfish asshole. I don’t know what she expected us to say in response. “Sorry for talking about women, we’ll talk more about men” ??