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[–]Jillyjanejan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Aren't you're speaking of the TCJA in terms of it's projected pay-offs rather than the reality? It failed to deliver on the estimations and, after an initial spike, growth started heading south even before the pandemic

[–]Anniesworld 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm talking about both projected payoffs and reality. I already said why I think tax cuts help the economy in the comment above. What Obama Biden or Bush era policies created this economic growth in the last four years? If you know please enlighten me, and change the way I see it.

[–]Jillyjanejan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry, instead of saying Obama deserves the credit for economic growth what I should have said is Trump doesn't deserve that much credit. That would have been clearer. He just inherited a post-recession economy that was already picking up momentum. It was actually not stunted like you claimed. I'm not trying to change the way you see anything- not everyone who leaves a contrasting opinion wants to enter into a tedious debate. I'm not the debating type so let's just agree to disagree. And I think you should re-examine the after effects of the TCJA.

[–]Anniesworld 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do think that it is definitely easier riding a wave of slow economic growth and building on that,what trump did, than be president after an awful recession like Obama had. I'm not saying Obama was the absolute worst, I'm saying that the economy is in a stronger position under trump, and the Obama/Biden policies did not do as well as the trump policies.

I will look up more info on the TCJA although I did look it up and saw that the cuts seem to be beneficial more for the middle class and corporations. I saw that they cut some of the ACA programs premium tax credits(insurance subsidy) to be able to make the tax cuts. Which I have idea on how that impacts everyone's tax returns negatively and positively, but I get that you are kinda done with the conversation.

I don't think it's tedious to talk about issues that are important, since we gain knowledge from discussion. I definitely will be looking more in-depth at the trump tax cuts because you brought up a point that is valid,( how impactful have they been) although I still think that principal of tax cuts makes sense for economic growth (long and short term). I learned something from our talk and I enjoyed talking with you.