The definition of lesbian: the googoogaga factor

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[–]Seahorse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Interesting take OP.

Anything involving fluidity and sex will get the pitch forks out however because that's what the queer crowd wants to indoctrinate gays with.

Hopefully this debate will fade as bisexual women try and cultivate their own culture and stop masquerading as lesbians.

[–]Skipdip[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Yes I agree. I don’t like how this push back to the queer homophobia has resulted in needless infighting. Not everyone has fluidity, but some people do. Some straight people do and some lesbian/gay people do. I am defining fluidity as the ability to perform the mechanical action of intimacy, which is how I’m differentiating it from bisexual. To me a bisexual can go either way and be happy. I could never be happy with a man. I could never be sexually satisfied with a man. I would never choose to be in a relationship with a man, unless it was with a gay man to hide my real relationship. It hurts to be rejected from the paltry remains of the lesbian community. I really do think I am lesbian 🤷‍♀️ but I have ocd and this preoccupation with if I’m attracted to men is not the only intrusive thoughts I get.

I think bisexual women should cultivate their own culture. Because I agree it is needed. But I have met true bisexuals and I don’t relate to them. I lose interest when the topic goes to men.

[–]Seahorse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah I think a lot of this is lesbians from privileged backgrounds or ones that have an inability to understand that not everyone in life is dealt the same hand.

I was too busy doing sport in highschool to be "interested" in boys so I had a nice little cover. So I never needed to fake being straight or have anything to do with men but I have lots of lesbian friends that did. They are not any less lesbian than me because they had to go a different route to me.

What you are describing to me is compulsive heterosexuality, I have seen some sheltered posters on here not believe it's a thing.

But it very much is, outside the cosy realms of western society (and sometimes still in it!) there are still places where one can be raped, beaten and indeed murdered for being lesbian.

[–]Hydiee 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Sounds more like compulsive HOMOsexuality to me. Trying to force herself to like vaginas, calls them "more disgusting" than penises and semen. I mean...?

[–]Seahorse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I thought that was in the context of puberty? I was a homophobic little shit during puberty, certainly wouldn't want people holding that against me.

It doesn't have to apply solely to this person, but she has a good point on how some lesbians are treated.

[–]Hydiee 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Could I have sex with a man? Yes, I’ve done it before. I don’t see why I couldn’t do it and maybe even make myself come from it. Do I want to do it? On some level kind of. I have a lot of curiousity about it at this point since it’s been built up so much in my mind.

I don't think it was in the context of puberty, but either way, she said she still wants to have sex with a man (on some level) >today< so that's irrelevant. In my first comment I said that I think things will be easier for her if she just accepts that she's bisexual and I still stand by that.

Also, what good point did she make about how some lesbians are treated? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really wondering.

[–]Seahorse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I didn't read the whole convos on the thread only that she did have some good points in her OP about sexuality and what is going on with it.

Honestly as an older generation lesbian I have a different take to a lot on here, I'm really not interested in someone's past all that much only that their present and future will be exclusively female (I didn't get the impression that OP was about to jump back into bed with dudes but maybe I need to read it again).

She has said that we need to be nicer to each other and we do in regards to accusing people of being low key bisexual.

I remember reading a comment on here about some poster saying that some other posters weren't lesbians because they found a male celebrity attractive at like 10.....like come on now, that's silly.

[–]Hydiee 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know the post you are referring to, and everyone was against that person and could see how ridiculous they were being. There's definitely a few nuts like that.

This is very different, however. Given everything she's written, I don't think it's nuts to assume that she's not a lesbian. At this point, it's nuts to assume that she is. Like I said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being bisexual.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed, and regardless of her orientation, it's nuts to continuously make these meandering, male-centric posts and then play the victim when people start doubting her sexuality.

I've struggled a lot with coming to terms with being gay and no longer clinging to the possibility of being bisexual, so I want to sympathize with her, but jesus christ, that post about the bdsm dreams and the detailed dick sex. What the fuck.

[–]Seahorse 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair point I have read the rest of the thread a bit more!

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm really not interested in someone's past all that much only that their present and future will be exclusively female

Normally I agree, but this poster has a history of inundating the board with her text walls of man-obsession to justify calling herself a lesbian (I'm still not sure how the logic works) and it's just weird, alienating and offensive.

[–]peaked2020 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She wrote an essay about how she thought vaginas were disgusting for years and was asked by another woman who slept with her if she was even liked to women at all. She calls them gross and says they have “nasty liquid” that she would force herself to eat out for her girlfriend. She had to learn to like them after months of forcing it with her girlfriend... then she marveled at how she finally didn’t feel like she wanted a man watching them or had any desire for a boyfriend. Then concludes it saying she still has some desire for men and May sleep with them sometimes. That too after sleeping with multiple men in the past because of “society”... It isn’t people being combative, she is not gay and I frankly find it disturbing that she forced herself to learn to like a sex organ.