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[–]MisandryFTW 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

You have every right to be proud of who you are. The main issue I have with the idea of gold star is it can make women who have been raped by men, discovered they were lesbian later in life, or live in a situation where they are forced to marry and/or have sex with men to survive feel dirty or invalid. Interestingly I recently became a retroactive gold star as the last of my rapists came out as trans (if you count that sort of thing).

[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Okay, listen, no one in their right mind would think a lesbian who has been raped is not a “goldstar.” So let’s just get that out there right now. You don’t believe it, I don’t believe it, and if someone does they are TRASH. Rape is not even close to the same thing as consensual sex. I find it REALLY REALLY hard to imagine a lesbian woman equating rape to sex. That is the most logical fallacy possible.

Coming out later in life is a different animal and that’s a case by case basis. It’s a lot more complicated and I think the late bloomers understand that.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

^ I’ve been in exclusively goldstar groups because of how bad some of the anti-GS were (not the same thing as non-GS!) in an online community I was in that rarely but sometimes did bleed over into real life meetups. No one ever said this on the GS side, in fact a lot of the GS lesbians argued against such a thing— and many I have known have been raped or sexually abused by men.

The only people who I ever saw promote the idea that GS excludes women who have been raped were those in the “anti-GS” group- as a talking point to demonize goldstars— and it wasn’t the only dirty tactic they would use (suicide baiting, insults, shunning, lying, appeals to het/bi allies to interfere, etc). Most of the GS felt the term was either helpful to them pre/post coming out and so wanted it around so other young lesbians could find it, or found it tongue in cheek or light hearted enough to joke around with.

[–]TalerTest 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anti-GS group? Do people really get together and steam over the fact that there's lesbians who have never had sex with men? That's honestly funny. What's even the goal?

[–]FrostyNugs 15 insightful - 11 fun15 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Do people really get together and steam over the fact that there's lesbians who have never had sex with men?

Yes, they're called trans activists :)

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! Honestly they wanted us to 1) not use the term and 2) not speak about our lives. They claimed it was because “goldstar as a term is demeaning to them” but even if you didn’t use the term they’d jump on you. It’s 100% because they were traumatized and not getting treatment or making progress handling that trauma. We were there, having small discussions and repeatedly even if you made a joke that was only meant for 12 followers (not at anyones expense) someone would dig it up just to start shit. We were easy to find, and small because after years of being targeted a lot of us would wear it like a badge of honor.

It was WILD. It went on for about 5+ years but I left by then, my partner said it went on longer and I still see remnants of it going on today (almost 9 years later) in the same small public community.