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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

When straight people write and direct lesbian dramas you get abominations like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCEIqOZnfLQ

It includes every single stereotype you can think of, the most awkward and uncomfortable looking sex scenes and worst of all one of the lesbian characters sleeps with her male friend because she was feeling sad and lonely. Just yikes.

[–]writerlylesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

For better or worse, Lip Service was written by a lesbian.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Are you sure? In her interviews she never mentions anything about being attracted to women. In fact, she almost seems to subtly avoid that.

Edit: I always just put her down as one of those straight/bi women who romanticizes wxw relationships but has never actually been in one.

[–]writerlylesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have no idea what the writer is doing these days, but she was well known in the lesbian UK community 10 years ago when the show came out.

I think the reason why the show is full of terrible tropes is because of trying to pander to a straight audience, and because the writer wasn’t that talented so had to go for cheap drama and weird sex. Technically, I think Frankie is meant to be bisexual but more orientated towards women, but then half the time she gets called a lesbian anyway, which isn’t cool.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah the writer has pretty much dropped off the face of the Earth. I think the writer wholeheartedly created Frankie to be a lesbian character, but doesn't understand that lesbians won't just start sleeping with men because we are sad or lonely. The writer always refers to lesbians as "they" or "them" instead of "us" or "we" so I'm leaning towards her being straight.

[–]writerlylesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it was cynical marketing. I certainly remember that when the show’s creators were on the lesbian arts circuit, they would talk about Frankie as bisexual. But then in the wider media, they’d refer to her as a lesbian. Basically to perpetuate the idea that guys still get to bang hot lesbians, because that always plays well with the straights.

The show actually shoots down the sexual fluidity argument with the creepy dude who had a crush on his lesbian friend. Though everything about that plot line is handled atrociously.

Lip Service overall was just a money grab to try and perpetuate the L Word’s success, without really understanding why fans actually liked that show.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I completely agree, it was more about money than anything.