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    [–]Innisfree 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    And having a problem with fake lesbians doesn't make any woman here a common bitch.

    Strictly was obviously being tongue in cheek but it's clear that her intention was to make sure that we make the distinction between the history of the term and its current meaning. Nowhere does she condemn people who dislike modern political lesbians.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Agreed - I don't want to speak for SD, but from how I understood her post, she's not saying anyone should agree with all of Jeffreys' ideas nor should they agree with modern LARPing straight women descendants, but they should look at political lesbianism in a historical context. Most of us would be secretaries getting groped by their bosses or saddled at home with 3 kids, not trailblazing a movement where women had the option to free themselves from men whether it be through celibacy or lesbianism. So spitting on the term and treating it as if it is beneath us instead of recognizing its origins is insulting to the women who allowed us to be who we are today.

    [–]lairacunda 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I think you are giving political lesbianism as a movement and as a force way too much credit. Yes, we'd all be screwed if Women's Lib had not happened. But most of the 2nd Wave women were not lesbians, political or bona fide. In fact one of the reasons the momentum died out was because so many women married themselves into patriarchal servitude.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I am inclined to agree. I would love to see actual numbers on it, but from how I have heard political lesbianism described, it seems like it was a minority group within second wave feminism.