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[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Stop being common bitches and learn something about your history for fuck’s sake.

You know, a lot of the reason why people don't know history is because these are intensely charged issues that many bad actors lie about. I know you are frustrated, but please don't take it out on us. There's no reason to assume that people here don't care about a subject, just because they don't know about it. Most people here are curious and interested in learning things.

It sounds like what the message you are trying to say is: "There was this movement called 'political lesbians' decades ago, and they paved the way for women's and lesbians' rights in many contexts." Fair enough. But, the thing is-- the word "political lesbian" means something different today than the way you are using it. And the phenomenon of today, is a legitimate concern.

This is where I think you are misunderstanding other people:

Stop demonizing this historical political act and philosophy. Start understanding its place in history and why it existed in the first place instead.

When people say "fuck political lesbians", I don't think they're "demonizing this historical political act and philosophy"-- that is, I don't think they are talking about the women of the 60s. I think they are talking about the TRA-inclined women who are saying "I choose to be lesbian!" I believe you when you suggest that in 1960 or whatever, it was progressive to say, "I choose to be lesbian"-- but, simultaneously, in 2020 it is NOT progressive to say "I choose to be lesbian".

You seem angry at people for misunderstanding you-- but the idea that being gay can be socialized is an extremely touchy subject, how can you blame people?? I myself was taught as a child that child abuse socializes people into becoming gay.

edit: fixed formatting.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Most people are not curious or they wouldn’t be extremely reductive and incorrect in their interpretation of things. They have unilaterally taken an idea that they don’t understand and run with it. Which is frustrating and deserved.

You are curious, don’t project that on other people because it is just not the case, as is evidenced from the majority of typical knee-jerk responses responses on here where everyone just assumes i am on board with a bunch of bisexuals and straight people filling up the community and calling themselves lesbians, which is not true.

[–]lairacunda 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Let me ask you something. Are you a lesbian? Are you a biological/natal female who is EXCLUSIVELY and SEXUALLY attracted to other bio/natal females?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah babe. I’m even a goldstar and came out at 16, knew at 12. I’ve been out for 20+ years. Do you want to see my membership card as well?

[–]lairacunda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have one?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Sure, and I’ll ace the practical exam too

[–]lairacunda 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's just that I've never been credentialed. Must be a new thing.