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[–]VioletRemi 31 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

That recent situation with TikTok and Facebook, when teens said that it is okay to not love penises as lesbian, and then TRA cancelling them and bringing to tears, showed to me that situation is pretty bad and all this gender ideology is just very homophobic and "pro-penis in everyone's life".

Worst part of this situation, is that when homophobes hated me in my time and were threatening and actually applying violence to me - I always know who are the threat and who are homophobes and idiots. Yet nowadays it is unknown, because those girls were attacked withing the very community that is supposed to be defending her rights, from "LGBTQ+", where word "Lesbian" is included. So it is almost like backstabbing. And because they are so young, they do not know about anything and just thinking that they are wrong, that they are "doing lesbianism wrong", just like I was thinking that there something wrong with me and tried to "fix myself to like men".

Just the same old song. But now with make-up and wigs flavour.

[–]Innisfree[S] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Unfortunately girls were always targeted for refusing to be a supporter, a carer. And lesbians are more prone to be pressured simply because we are a minority and nobody will come to our defense. So we will have to, yet again, toughen up and stand our ground.

And like you mention these young people are just that - young. Most of them are not in the mindspace of battling activists. Probably all they are used to and all they want to do is have a good time with friends online - share memes and opinions about pop culture or common interests. They don't want to be in a space where they have to be constantly upset at the representatives of the trans community, who they are told is the most vulnerable. They'd feel terrible being on gender critical, for instance, and understandably so.

And this is where the tone and the content of the discourse comes up. I'd love this forum to be the opposite of the negativity on other platforms. Where Instagram and tiktok are about personal brands and impressing your peers, I wish here was about real, down to earth people having honest discussions, where twitter and reddit are filled with mysoginy and wokeness, I wish here was about the diversity and complexity of life and view points, a place where we can dissect an argument and laugh at our own silliness in the same breath. So far, the discussions on this forum have been just like that and that's why I like it. But the question is would young people like it? And should we expect them too join this forum? I think the 'influencer sapphics' wouldnt be caught near here, but the people who most need it, the young lesbians, isolated from their community for one reason or another, will find their place here and will appreciate it.

[–]mangosplums 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think for this to be true, we need to move from this site to somewhere else. No one wants to come to a site where the rest of the site is full of racists and trumpists and anti-mask people. It really bothers me that some people are ok with staying on this site and come up with excuses why we shouldn’t move.

[–]Innisfree[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have a point. When i created an account here it really bothered me that i was automatically subscribed to all the weird subs. I had to go through all of them and uncheck. Out of sight out of mind sort of works for me, but probably won't for them.

Have you tried the new Ovarit sub? That's a platform for gender critical women, but we have a dedicated sub there: https://saidit.net/s/Lesbians/comments/5tlz/yes_we_are_on_ovarit/

Would you be interested and do you think it is better than here? I'm gong to DM the mod to join to check it out. As I understand the users from here are slowly trickling there.

Other than that i really don't know anyone who has the means to create a whole new secure platform and maintain it. As i understand it would cost anywhere btw 30 and and a couple of hundred per month. I don't think people would like to pay. Unless a for profit company hosts us, but then we wouldn't be any safer.