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[–]whateverman 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

I went on a couple dates with this girl I met at a grocery store. She seemed nice and was cute. On the second date it became pretty apparent that she was a political lesbian. She would just not stop talking about how much she hated men. I tried to let her know I wasn't interested in talking about that and gave it one more go. Third date was also a bust and I told her it wasn't working out. She called me a bitch and we never spoke again.

[–]writerlylesbian 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Oh no, condolences. That just...Really sucks.

Not entirely relevant, but the thing that really upsets me about political lesbianism is that...In the ideal world as according to PL, lesbians actually wouldn't exist. I.e., according to that ideology, women are only lesbians because they are reacting against male dominance. So, if feminism succeeded and we had a properly equal society, then...In the world as according to PL, all the women would go back to men and there'd be no lesbians. Because lesbianism wouldn't be 'needed' anymore.

[–]VioletRemi 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds extremely homophobic, misogynic and disgusting.

[–]Jaded 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Ew.

[–]writerlylesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I mean, the fact that lesbians wouldn't exist post-patriarchy isn't actually spelled out. But it's the logical conclusion if lesbians are all actually straight and only with other women to get away from bad men.

[–]VioletRemi 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Similar argument I am hearing from "transwoman lesbians" (aka straight men in make up) - "you are lesbian and don't want my girl dick only because you was raped and hating men". Only makes me facepalm.

[–]writerlylesbian 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know. The entire characterisation of lesbians as 'broken heterosexuals' is so insulting. Like, there are lots of scumbag men who rape women, so some proportion of those women are going to be lesbian; whether correctively raped or just raped for being female.

And the fact that the trans crowd use the broken heterosexual rhetoric to attempt to show lesbians as bad and wrong for not wanting dick just shows how sick it is. No lesbians ever wanted your dick, dude. Just go away.

[–]VioletRemi 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Current situation in the West makes me sad too. LGB were making casual people to acknowledge that sexual orientation is not a choice, it is part of your biology and how your body works. Many lesbians would be happy to be bisexual or straight under pressure, but they just can't. I was married for 3 years, and my ex-husband was very kind and good person, and we tried with him so hard to make it work, but decided in the end that I am just asexual or frigid, he still not left me, thought. However, it was not the case, I was just loving women, and first kiss with woman after divorce reassured me in that. It is biology, you can't change how your body works.

And it is pretty sad nowadays to hear Stonewall speaking things like "homosexuality is just a preference" or things like "genital preference". Here we go again, to a place we where 30-40 years ago. It is really pissing me off. I just want to live in a society without fear, like everyone else, and that is it. I want everyone see me just like a normal person and not like some freak of nature. It was slowly being achieved, and on West it was almost completely achieved...and now everything just went back.

[–]writerlylesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, it's so frustrating. Especially because there are many countries where LGB people still don't have basic rights and acceptance, and now all of this trans stuff is coming along to muddy the waters and possibly set everything back even further in those countries too.

And you're totally right. A sweet, lovely man is not going to turn a lesbian into a straight women. That's just not how sexual attraction works.

[–]VioletRemi 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Especially because there are many countries where LGB people still don't have basic rights and acceptance

I am from one of such actually.

That's just not how sexual attraction works.

That is why "preference" is such a bad word. Maybe even more harmful than "queer" or "non-binary".

[–]lmaonope333 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I mean I find that straight people get it more than "qweers." like I was telling this straight guy about how current events and he thought it was absurd hes like "well if I was a lesbian I wouldn't either wanna date transwomen"