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[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

We had a ton of great cheap antivirals that all work well to cure early stage covid and prevent people from develop severe covid. Cheap 50 year old medications that are safe. I can make and airtight case for the effectiveness of a number of them that I researched that bury the new fangled big pharma interventions that were pushed by oligarchs.

But they couldnt make any money on those because of expired patents. So everybody had to die. And oligarchs pushed bad studies that demonized covid cures.

Big pharma pushes whatever new bullshit product they have over established effective drugs with known safety profiles. CDC/FDA/Congress are in bed with these guys and they all suck each other off.

Half a million americans died this year from covid, most of them didn’t have to.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ace inhibitors were associated with a 68% reduction iirc in contracting corona because they both act on the same pathway. I thought that deserved bigger consideration.

Although they aren't suitable for everyone, people with normal blood pressure would feel dizzy on them.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wow you’re saying ACE inhibitors were shown to be prophylactic? That is really interesting. I researched a little bit about ACE inhibitors and outcomes early on because a family member uses it. Initially some people said ACE inhibitors might exacerbate covid, but the data seemed to show the reverse.

I think there are a number of better alternatives for prophylaxis. HCQ or Ivermectin will both work. So will quinine (tonic water) and stuff like quercetin and EGCG. They all inhibit the viral replication. Even when they “fail” they work to lessen severity. I think ivermectin is a really good choice which is easy to obtain.

https://saidit.net/s/Coronavirus/comments/7thx/ivermectin_cheap_covid_treatment_shown_to_be/

But a liter of high quality tonic water a day (Schweppes, Seagrams, Canada Dry) will have about 60 or 65 mg of quinine base, which should make a significant difference on outcomes.

I think theres been some studies on Vit C and D and susceptibility as well.

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The angiotensin-converting enzyme 2, (ACE2 "receptor") protein provides the entry point for the corona virus to hook into. Ace inhibitors inhibit that protein so less opportunity for infection.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed. I was aware of that. However the angiotensin renin system is so complicated that it is just not readily apparant to me why. I researched the issue a little about a year ago. But its complicated. I cant remember how it works. But there were doctors saying the ACE inhibitors might actually make covid worse. Also ACE2 is not the same as ACE2 receptor.