Taking Wealth From Those Who Work Hard

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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

the only way for the rich to become richer is to take from the poor.

That makes no sense at all. The poor have nothing to take, and the fact that you think possessions are created through theft is concerning.

The way for the rich to become richer is to create more. To use their unlimited money to buy scientists, to build corporations like pizer and use it to not only wield political power by holding medicine over the heads of everyone else but to also use it to destroy the scientific efforts of others because the less your enemies know the more powerful you are. They destroy technology that would cure diseases, they hide technology which benefits them more as private knowledge, they release only the technology that best allows them to control and manipulate people without giving away the power of knowledge to others.

That is why we live in clown world. That is why everyone has been brainwashed to believe absurdities like trans propaganda, global warming, and multidimensionality.

it isnt about who earns the money.

Yes, it very much is. At least for the vast majority of people. Outside of the uber rich and powerful the rest of us live lives of making the most of our lives. When we work towards that end and it is taken from us to support others who do not that is a crime. It is a travesty. It is destructive. It takes away the ability of hard workers to make something of themselves. To create the technology and advancement for themselves that is taken away by the 1%. Redistribution is just a way to impoverish those who challenge the 1% and their dystopic plans, and have that impoverishment be blamed on the poor. The biggest threat to the 1% are the millions of people who when left to their own devices invent, create, learn and build. Who will save up the excess of their hard work and use that savings to push the known science further; and do it openly. Who will take the medical shackles off the people by curing cancer, providing organic produce, spreading information about vaccine harm, and developing alternatives to all the things designed to make us sickly and needy.

[–]CANDYASSES 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The poor have nothing to take

we have begun to form large slums in our communities.

we call it homelessness.

it is my opinion that the united states is forming a social system that is similar to the caste system in india. the "in a nutshell" description of the indian caste system is that there is an "ultra poor low class" that is referred to as an "untouchable", meaning that good and proper "middle and upper class" not to shake hands or to be friendly to these people of the lowest class in the indian caste system. Apparently they enjoy working in the sewers, it pays good money.

the elite rich do nothing but to sit around and play a lifesized version of social chess. they have buckets of diamonds and tons of gold that they can spend on a whim.

somebody is robbing the henhouse, and it aint the poor.

your move.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

we have begun to form large slums in our communities.

Wrong, there has never been a time when homeless did not exist. However, the problem is now the smallest it has ever been, thanks to capitalism.

united states is forming a social system that is similar to the caste system

India's caste system is supported by laws, something that is expressly prohibited in the united states by anit-discrimination laws. They are not equally enforced because Affirmative Action and any anti white discrimination is allowed, however, you can't really claim that white people are predominantly lower class as a result. In terms of class mobility America is near the very top of all countries, which is why all the poor people in the world flock here.

the elite rich do nothing

That is a meaningless thing to say unless you can narrow down the term "the elite rich". The vast majority of millionaires did not make their money doing nothing. It seems like you don't know what they do and instead of accepting your ignorance or actually trying to learn you invented an answer that fits into your anti capitalist world view. Or rather you were brainwashed with this view and accept it willingly because it excuses your poverty as something other than the result of your actions and the actions of your parents and ancestors. It is simply not based in facts.

somebody is robbing the henhouse, and it aint the poor.

It is illogical to say that others have money THERFORE they must have stolen it. Do better.

[–]CANDYASSES 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Wrong, there has never been a time when homeless did not exist. However, the problem is now the smallest it has ever been, thanks to capitalism.

published numbers say that we have approx 500,000 homeless in the united states.

it is my opinion, kind sir or madame, that you could debate your way out of a tornado or tsunami.

there are 500,000 people that do not have a stable home.

we have literally millions of people in impoverished rural area that are at or below starvation levels.

we have literally millions of people that are seemingly hopelessly addicted to opiate pain killer drugs.

thanks to capitalism.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

'could'?

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Literally nothing you said addresses the fact that it is capitalism that has reduced poverty and you have the audacity to claim that capitalism is still the problem. Absolute insanity. You are the king of clowns in clown world, congratulations.

[–]CANDYASSES 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

9/10ths of the law is about one's intent.

do you notice that my posts are not peppered with insults.

my intent is to find solutions, while your intent seems to be of a rude and agressive type.

you should drop off your resume to CNN.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are no solutions in lies. You are stuck on trying to lie your way to a solution. You should drop off your resume to CNN.

[–]CANDYASSES 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

correction: your posts are peppered with insults AND lies, like on CNN.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really agree with a lot of what both you and @canbot said. I think that you might both benefit from moving away from the whole socialism-vs-capitalism dichotomy now, because it is not a useful model anymore. Obviously the capitalists are also socialists trying to implement a Chinese model of capitalist-socialist totalitarianism with no freedom and huge wealth disparity.

I think you need to acknowlege that there are “poor” people who are behaving badly, harmfully, unproductively and are not having their wealth stolen. They are having wealth distributed to them from useful workers.

Canbot doesn’t seem to realize that a free market society is only functional if everyone is playing by the same rules in the market and that everyone in the market must have a stake in the overall welfare of the society based on a common set of values. A handful of bad actors cannot be allowed to fuck over the rest of the society, especially productive workers. Because then there is no trust. No trust= no prosperity.

Which is what we got here.

[–]CANDYASSES 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you need to acknowlege that there are “poor” people who are behaving badly, harmfully, unproductively and are not having their wealth stolen.

yeah, they want food, ffs.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of these homeless are people that are choosing to be homeless because they are drug addicts. Many of these people are illegal immigrants. Criminals. And certainly some crazy people.

I am strongly in favor of increasing manufacturing in the US immediately. Some of these people can produce wealth if given increased opportunity. But we cannot keep compensating drug addicts at the expense of workers.

Oh btw. We can end drug use anytime we want. Anytime. When people decide that living in a decent country is more important than the right to get high. Its very easy to solve the drug problem.