"Capitalism Rewards Efficiency"

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

They are saying that people should be growing and building things locally, then shipping it out if they want. Rather than what we have now, where we have a massive lattice work of deals and contracts, oftentimes creating situations of monetary imbalance in the poorer countries and a lack of practical knowledge in the heavily consumerist countries.

[–]Nemesis 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I'm saying it's a ridiculous comparison, because his friend can't produce preserved fruit in a disposable container at this price point(edit: price estimate <$.50 per pack) locally. These "deals and contracts" are the foundations of the international economy, and on the contrary provide tremendous opportunities for developing nations to develop. Sure you can preserve your own peaches as a hobby, but it will never realistically replace the pictured product due not only to $ and expertise, but most importantly to the average American, time. We outsource food preparation to free up time to run a modern economy. If it wasn't a fair trade, my money for spending less time preparing peaches, canning equipment, etc. then I wouldn't make the trade. That's precisely why free markets are so effective, and why they've created unprecedented wealth and heightened quality of life on every continent.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm saying it's a ridiculous comparison, because his friend can't produce preserved fruit in a disposable container at this price point(edit: price estimate <$.50 per pack) locally.

And why is that? Is that partially because all dollars are interest bearing loans?

We outsource food preparation to free up time to run a modern economy.

Well, we shouldn't, and we should focus on sustainability and using AI and technology to do things locally. But instead we have mcDonalds and Burger King and big corporations. Modernity is a cancer when proft becomes its motive.

[–]Nemesis 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Do you plan on producing AI and technology locally? This is precisely why we outsource tasks like food preparation, home building, furniture building, so we can divert time to specialized training (the years invested in a phd, research, etc) and resulting years working full time on the job. We have mcdonalds and Burger King because people buy mcdonalds and Burger King. it pumps your brain full of dopamine, its cheap, quick and predictable. I don't eat them, but many people do. We don't have fast food at the expense of AI, I would argue we may have AI someday precisely BECAUSE we have innovations like fast food that free up our best and brightest minds to pursue their full potential. Modernity is cancer, but not because people pursue profit. People have ALWAYS pursued profit. Please point to an actual historical period where people did not pursue their self-interest. It's intrinsically human to want something better and takes steps to achieve it, regardless the society, currency, etc.

As for the first part of your response, I think you misunderstood my post. The currency I listed isn't important - I used dollars because this website is majority American. You could convert 50 cents to gold dust, silver, bitcoin, whatever you prefer, the argument stands. The point is that economies of scale produces goods like this plastic tin of peaches CHEAP, much cheaper than he ever could in his backyard, because he isn't processing 100,000 peaches at a time and distributing through Walmart. That's why things are so cheap at the store, it's because things are cheaper when you do them in bulk. It literally has nothing to do with dollars being "interest bearing loans".

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AI and technology.

It literally has nothing to do with dollars being "interest bearing loans".

It has everything to do with it.

This is a specialized profession and the government, if it wasn't subsidizing profit-driven corporations to slowly poison the population and actually cared about their citizens (which they don't; because the US government should be a body corporate of "We the People," which it is not), would look to the future and not only subsidize these projects but provide incentives to local municipalities (corporations) to create the needed infrastructure. But since the US Government (Federal corporation: UNTED STATES INC., & c. is merely concerned with profit, the infrastructure needed for swift distribution and the rights of the laborers has been obstructed in place of a profit driven incentive that cuts all corners and looks in the opposite direction, not to an easily foreseeable future, for we have the supplies and materials but to a supply and demand that relies on the flow of interest bearing loans. Every state corporation and most country corporations, such as the US are in tremendous amounts of debt due to issuing interest bearing loans from a Judaica owned central bank (Warburg, Seligman, Lowb, Schiff, Lehman, etc.). They then use the taxpayer as collateral for the interest accrued or expropriate/mortgage it unto unborn generations, such as your children or children's children to service this idiotic debt. The tax payer then has to bailout these corporate welfare banks when boom and bust cycles occur which are inherently built into this banking system. These boom and bust cycles (mostly inflationary cycles caused by credit [debt]), gunk up distribution and severely hurt the laborers welfare. Wealth = labor; Wealth = doing good unto others; Wealth does not equal money and how much you have, period.

When these supply and demand distortions happen due to parasites in power that enforce the dreaded "Sacrifice Quota" to raise prices, all during an economic collapse, all whilst more people are starving and poor, all whilst they continue to payback accrued interest and bailout the banks.

Very backwards.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please point to an actual historical period where people did not pursue their self-interest. It's intrinsically human to want something better and takes steps to achieve it, regardless the society, currency, etc.

You are confusing profit motive for something better or more money = wealth, which it does not. Christians were originally anti-Usury. Our current system is based on Usury.

You could convert 50 cents to gold dust, silver, bitcoin, whatever you prefer, the argument stands. The point is that economies of scale produces goods like this plastic tin of peaches CHEAP, much cheaper than he ever could in his backyard, because he isn't processing 100,000 peaches at a time and distributing through Walmart.

That's because price is a metaphysical reality. If we created an economy around welfare of the laborer and the fruits s/he produces rather than destroy him, then all would be good. Again, the sacrafice quota illustrates the barbarity in all of this.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have any ready links available for information concerning this "sacrifice quota" you have mentioned? I've never heard of this before

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://samisdat.info/blog/the-modern-idolatry

http://samisdat.info/books/the-modern-idolatry-1934/1934%20-The%20Modern%20Idolatry%20-%20Jeffrey%20Mark.pdf

The actual book is free on Archive.org. It is a decent read and talks about the sacrifice quota often.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you