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[–]wahala 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

So she wasn't a finance major then...

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    [–]wahala 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, or in the alternative, learn a trade instead and avoid the life crushing loans altogether.

    [–]polync 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    She knew the terms in advance, and it was her own free choice. I couldn't believe somebody put a gun to her head. What's the problem?

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

    Usury is not a legitimate profession.

    [–]polync 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    The term may be used in a moral sense—condemning, taking advantage of others' misfortunes—or in a legal sense, where an interest rate is charged in excess of the maximum rate that is allowed by law. - Wikipedia

    How the hell usury applies in this case? Is there any excess of maximum rate allowed by law? Was journalism the only ever possible opportunity for her to ever work? That's ridiculous!

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

    The vast majority of jobs these days require a bachelors degree. And if you're not part of the super-rich caste, you're going to end up taking some loans. That's what everyone does. There are over a trillion dollars in student loans out there that nobody expects will ever be repaid. That shouldn't be allowed, but the West has been totally taken over by financiers.

    [–]C3P0 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    That's what everyone does.

    Maybe a lot of people do, but there are enough scholarships out there if the student is exceptional. It's even easier to get a scholarship if you are black or female. Just don't be a white male.

    [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      That really isn't the topic here.

      [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        The topic is student debt, not whether you think a job is worth something or not. And you obviously understand very little about economics since you talk about "tax payers subsidizing" ANYTHING.

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          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Dunning-Kruger.

          [–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          And if you're not part of the super-rich caste, you're going to end up taking some loans.

          The super rich buy everything on credit. It's better for tax purposes (and money laundering).

          [–]Chipit 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          A journalist. Of course she's a journalist.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

          It used to be a noble profession. And maybe she went into it thinking she'll make a difference and never sell out.

          [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          I think she went into journalism because she wasn't the sharpest pencil in the drawer. I mean, she has no idea how mathematics work. She fits right in in the newsroom.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Yeah, figures, since you always think the lowest and worst of people. Maybe you should look into what that means about YOU.

          [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          This is literally a personal attack and is against saidit rules. Please rephrase your comment to address the topic.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          That's most of your posts on here: mind-erasingly stupid provocation. I'm not wasting time "educating" you when in fact all you try to do is elicit such responses. I should just ignore you instead. But your game is pretty obvious.

          [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          This is another personal attack and is completely irrelevant to the topic of this journalist. Do you have any arguments to make, or do you wish to go on breaking the rules of saidit?

          [–]peety 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

          and that's (((their)))(3rd) greatest weapon.

          usury

          germany's state owned banks forbid interest (usury) and germany bounced back from the depression faster than any country. 3-5% on a home loan. a $500,000 would give the bank $15,000 that first year, on one house! think subdivision, ~250 houses. does a bank that already holds most peoples money really need to make 3.75 million for those loans?

          i wonder (((who))) makes those rates that steal from american people? how much stronger this country would be? instead most of us are slaves

          [–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

          What is the alternative to banks though? Will you lend me 300k to buy a house free of interest?

          [–]Honestanonymous 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          U can't imagine an alternative to usury? Wow....

          [–]ReeferMadness 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          You can't either, apparently.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Gaddafi.

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          LOL

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          What? Are you drunk again? ;-)

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          No. I'm admiring your insightful example that also has a dark twist ending.

          All of my neighbours are a very distracting bad influence on me. I was a hermit for 8 of the 9 years I've been here. While my neighbours aren't rich or smart, almost all of them are generally truth-aware even if they don't know specifics, history, or all the conspiracies, and most are open to hearing new ideas, if not necessarily agreeing. Also most of them are more authentic than "fancier" people who pose a lot. Yet I'm utterly bored by their banal taste in most things, from music to culture to fashion to style to whatever. And their humour is very basic, like young teenagers level, but with old people. I'm the youngest by far, and I'm old at 49. It's interesting. I guess the "productive" younger neighbours don't have time for socializing.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Ah, thank you. :-)

          And I hear you on the neighbors. I myself am a bit of an hermit, and a bit of a snob, but finding people to talk about REAL THINGS (tm) with, that is worth a lot.

          The nice suburb in which I live is populated by people who are as likely to give you the middle finger, spit at your feet, scowl or nod if you dare say "hello".

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          It's only briefly refreshing to talk about real things with them as they can't speak deeply about much at all.

          I'd been withdrawn for years, and now my presence is admittedly overwhelming to some. They like their drinking. I'm trying to motivate them to participate more in actually doing more things. I've got plans for building to mobile gardens on wheels for the community, making a large outdoor chessboard table for the community, composting, an indoor garden this winter and maybe year-round, grow a bunch of pot plants, and making our own beer and wine - in order from top to least priority.

          Community used to be something more as a kid. Since then we've all retracted into our little lives with nothing more in common than the shows we watched, and now with infinite options instead of 4 channels we don't even have that.

          I preferred the artist community in Oakland, younger, diverse, clever, much more active, sexier, and progressive. But these guys are okay. Instead of just cat herding, I'm herding all old cats now.

          [–]peety 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

          this isn't one persons fight, it's for all of us. but i would suggest local credit unions, which still charge interest, but the money stays in the community. as far as i know. also, interest doesn't have to be that high. (((they))) who control the rate, think of profit before helping the people.

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          ^

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Why so many "<deleted>" comments?

          [–]peety 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          <deleted> (did you want one?)

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          I'm not condoning or condemning. I'm just curious.

          I liked several of your comments, decided to add you to my "friends" list to pay attention to and discovered them when looking over your history to be sure I wasn't making a mistake.

          [–]peety 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          semi-apology for being a smart ass, but it's for personal reasons

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Personally, I'm semi-impressed with your smart ass. Most people don't have what it takes to make any kind of apology for any reasons.

          [–]peety 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          lol

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          What are #1 and #2?

          Which depression? The Great Depression? Germany back then didn't "bounce back". It was engineered to succeed short term and drive the Jews out of Europe to colonize Israel, before it was destroyed for many reasons.

          [–]peety 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          well, without thinking too much about it at the time, i was thinking a toss up between 1 and 2 being the holohoax and the federal reserve

          what i can get my hands on to read about germany in the 30's, the country was a powerhouse. zero or near zero unemployment (i'm guessing because infrastructure was invested in heavily), loans(not sure if all) had no interest and from what pictures i have seen, nearly every picture shows a country with great strength.

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Fed Rez applies to everyone so it's #1, IMO tied with usury, extant longer than the others, and also applies to most.

          I'd put 9/11 at #3 because it started the Global war on terror.

          #4 COVID may eclipse #3, because it's Global Totalitarianism and BioWar.

          #5 The Holocaust was no small scam either, but its direct range and impact was limited. However, the myth has been all-pervasive, ever so taboo, and has been a profoundly successful propaganda campaign since the 1970s. Plus it's the foundation of all their excuses. I'd give it the #1 place for effective propaganda campaigns, though to be fair they control the media, so not actually that difficult.

          Whether the success of Germany was an artificial construct just to knock it down or simply due to a more fair system with less usury, or both - it would be fascinating to see how a fair system might thrive long term (not just for a couple decades).

          But how to maintain fairness? I only discovered this thing recently, curiously, with pros and cons: /s/Terminology/comments/6b5b/law_of_jante_10_rules_partly_explain_egalitarian/

          [–]flugegeheimen 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          Editor. Currently: @SInow, @PTBNL_Quarterly. Previously: @WaPoExpress, @SBNation, @presscitizen, @theeagle

          At least she put these money in good use, getting one the most respected, skilled, high-demand professions: freelance writer and editor in D.C..

          [–]zephyranthes 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          It's a checkmark lol.

          [–]Tarrock 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          That's how interest works. My mortage of 150k will end up costing me close to 270k unless I pay it back early. I throw an extra 100-400 bucks monthly onto it so I'll pay it off sooner.

          [–]Honestanonymous 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Looks like u got usury scammed

          [–]Tarrock 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          It's around 2% over 30 years, typical for a home mortgage.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Was that a JEWISH "private lender" by any chance?

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Seems legit. but I'm drun ka s fuck.