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[–]AmbroseBierce 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

Fucking communists really don't think...

Should all those Healthcare workers, teachers, and prison guards work for free?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

tax the rich

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Taxes are never the solution. Moreover, there has never been a need for taxes, except in the feudal system.

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Taxation IS feudalism. Literally no distinction whatsoever besides the illusion of voting over appointment.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never looked at it that way before. Thank you, that makes sense.

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Eliminate taxes. Rob the rich the traditional way.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

tax cuts for rich jews will trickle down any day now

[–]AmbroseBierce 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not every topic is "Duh Jooze!"

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

most boil down to it

[–]AmbroseBierce 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Only if you are a fucking retard...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ambrose bierce killed by jews too

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oey vey

[–]HPLovecraftsCat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

tAx tHe riCh lol

So we can send more money to Israel and blow up a few more goat farmers with a billion dollar jet? No thanks, I'd rather Bezos keeps his money. Taxation is theft

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Tax the rich. Yes. They pay nothing now. Israel another issue, don't try to change topic.

[–]AmbroseBierce 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"The rich don't pay taxes"

NYC begging the rich to come back...

"I will buy you dinner"

The left is so dead, they don't even realize it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

cuomo the conservadem begging them to come back sure. Most say good riddance, they contribute nothing, just inherited it.

[–]sproketboy 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

This is retarded. Meaninglessness leftist tripe.

[–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

It helps to have basic and cheap/working solutions for these things.

Sadly, eduction is often mixed with a political agenda. We are often educated to obey and to follow authority.

Healthcare is corrupted by companies pushing their more expensive solutions, and is not helping to avoid diseases. Just look at HCQ and you can see a huge problem in the push for more expensive solutions and scientific corruption preventing the usage of it.

Prisons are important, but there is also a weird (in)justice system.
There needs to be a solution for young people that get into crime and make drugs-usage legal.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

All victimless "crimes" shouldn't be considered crimes. Like drug use. Or unpaid parking tickets.

Also, legal drugs means actual STUDIES. When politics doesn't interfere, that can mean actual SCIENCE.

[–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good points. It depends on how much trouble you have caused.
And for light crimes, I am for "community service" instead of prison. Like cleaning up, weeding, etc.
Note: Not the combination of prison and slavery.
That can help the criminal to become more part of the community instead of an outsider, and it can teach someone that a real job may actually pay off.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People resort to crime for only a few reasons, of which these are immediately apparent:

  1. Sociopathic. They have lived an ostracized or violent relationship with society and as such don't feel a need to be part of it. Moreso, they feel a need to be OUTSIDE of it. Therefore, crime.

  2. Economic. They're poor, the economy is crap, they don't have skills they can use for decent money (or feel they don't) and unskilled labor is to them very much like slavery. And rightly so. As such, crime becomes attractive.

Otherwise, you have skills, you want to fit in, even a semi crappy job will tie you over until you find soemthing better. No crime.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

drug use ok but it does hurt us to have people parking illegally

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The unpaid tickets hurt you how? If the guy's car was really in the way, IT ALREADY GOT TOWED. So what's the problem with the unpaid ticket?

[–]Newmug 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Drug use is not a victimless crime though. How many Mexican cartel members were skinned alive so you could have your coke at the weekend? Or how many young men got beaten to a pulp because some coked up junkie thought he was staring at them? How many kids are neglected because mom is slumped over with a syringe in her arm every day? Even if drugs were legal, the problems they cause won't go away

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

SOME of them would go away: jail time for possession for example. Also, them becoming legal might mean less people skinned alive. Moreover, as I wrote, SCIENCE and RESEARCH might help people understand how this harms them, specifically, and perhaps develop some countermeasures, such as for example, MDMA causes brain damage UNLESS it is paired with Alpha-Lipoic-Acid and 5-htp. In that case, the likelihood and severity of damage is statistically insignificant. We know this because MDMA was legal relatively recently, used in psychotherapy, and thus research was performed.

[–]Newmug 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You do know its just the SALE of drugs thats illegal? They can still be produced and still have research carried out on them, even on humans.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Depends where... For many substances, possession is jail time.

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Cartels wouldn't be involved in the drug trade if it was legal. They would go half way out of business if drugs were legalized. As for people victimizing themselves, it's their own choice. Just like with alcohol, tobacco, and obesity.

[–]Newmug 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As for people victimizing themselves, it's their own choice. Just like with alcohol, tobacco, and obesity.

Which is exactly why drugs should STAY illegal. None of those things are as addictive or as harmful as drugs

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure you're right about that. Those things seem to be more addictive and damaging than drugs. Even through the opioid epidemic. But making it a crime for a person to do something with their own body seems like a violation of basic human rights. So I would give that a higher priority than protecting people from themselves under penalty of fines and imprisonment.

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Welcome to libertarianism. Fuck the government.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

about the parking tickets, this is obvious common sense but it encourages assholes to park wherever. Best to have them scared about getting a fine that is enforced. towed? Best to never get to that point cuz if they are towed it takes awhile and inconveniences me. Doing drugs much different, a guy doing that in privacy of his own home, I don't care.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here in Montréal getting towed takes 10 minutes from car parked to gone.

[–]Earl_Harbinger 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Allowing the government to control your healthcare or education directly opposes liberty, and is not conducive to health or happiness if you are sufficiently opposed to the government, or they to you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

you vote for govt so no

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Communists also vote.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

yep so deal with it

plus it's better than private insurance deciding for you (huge rates and covering nothing)

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't really have health insurance anymore; only health management accounts. The ACA pushed that over the line.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

must repeal that, need single payer

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Healthcare is affordable in every developed country except for the US.

It's anyone trying to justify for-profit private prisons?

State Public education is brainwashing. This should be a bottom-up local community program.

Education was co-opted by the govt. as a means of thought control.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Affordable, but accessible for full medical options?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tiered plans rarely exist.
Also, longer avg life expectancies.

[–]Feldheld 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The future of health care and edutation will be free markets. I have no doubt that in the long run free market HC and education will outcompete any government system.

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

mHm!

It's hard to argue with such a powerful and truthful perspective
but a lot of people have already been manipulated by materialism
some shallow folks figure out ways to put a dollar sign on everything

[–]astronautrob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or by the idea that anything not for profit equals Communism. This statement is spot on though, not everything in society needs to be profit driven.

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How is that communis propaganda working for the people of China? How about North Korea? Venezuela? Cuba? Vietnam?

Funny how every single county who lives by your ideals is a complete shithole.

[–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, but what I don't understand is why so many of you commies are obsessed with consumerism and worshipping big corporations. You should be boycotting those industries, not supporting them while complaining about them.

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exaclty! I have seen first hand how some people have chosen to spend money on cell phones, cable television, vacations, fancier vehicles or houses than needed, cigarettes or other drugs: instead of saving money for emergencies or investing in things like health care plans or retirement plans. Burdening their neighbors through selfish materialism. For those who propose to throw other people's money at the problem instead of getting their hands dirty trying to help their neighbor are contributing to the problem on a generational level.

Socialism is absolutely necessary for a functioning society, but becomes counterproductive, and even destructive to society, the instant participation becomes mandatory.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agreed. common sense.

[–]Antifa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

American, and European right of centre are different beastys.

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    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Please don't drag discussion down the pyramid of debate.

    [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Did you delete their comment? I think it would be better to leave it up and let us trash on it if it was low quality. IMO, of course.

    [–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm gonna agree with you commie faggots for once. These things shouldn't be operated by corporations for profit. Individuals, sure. Small businesses, of course. Corporations that take on shareholders and have a legal obligation to produce profit, fuck no. But with that being said, the gov shouldn't be operating these things either. Except prisons. But schools and healthcare facilities are used to control the population, so fuck the government controlling those. Wait, I guess prisons are used for the same reason, but most of those people deserved to be controlled. Like 80% or more. Let the junkies and drug dealers go.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A+++

    [–]unUSEFULidiot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Running businesses/industries for profit allows owners to reinvest in better capital goods.

    Every single business is trying to compete with every other business in a free market. When profit is made, businesses do not just sit on it and/or hand it over to the CEO. They would be foolish to do so, as the company/business which elects to purchase better machines will be able to cut their manufacturing costs and pass those savings along to the customer/consumer. This in turn allows them to out compete the business which sat on the profits or gave them out to the CEO/share holders/whatever.

    Profit in healthcare allows better medicine and techniques to be developed.

    Profit in prison can be monetized along the lines of rehabilitation, since there is no motive to bar people from producing economic value.

    Profit in education allows for the best teaching techniques to become popularized and new/innovative teaching practices to be rewarded.

    The government is balls deep in all of these industries in terms of the way they are regulated and subsidized by taxpayers.