Capitalism Is A Broken Worthless Outdated System Of Control

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[–]Chipit 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Hey, how's that socialism going in Venezuela? We stopped talking about them a while back for some mysterious reason that I don't understand.

"These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, VENEZUELA and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?"

-- Bernie Sanders

The Venezuelan government was democratically elected by the people to seize the means of production and ration out the benefits. The United Socialist Party of Venezuela instituted democratic socialism built on the socialist policies of Hugo Chavez.

I well remember how ordinary Venezuelans, many of them, cheered when Hugo Chavez took power and began to implement socialist economic policies. And why not? Venezuela was rich, blessed with ample supplies of oil, plenty of arable land which grew coffee, good ports, ample fishing grounds, no enemies across the border, and a well educated, industrious population. How the people cheered when Chavez promised them free food, free health care, gasoline subsidies and other blessings of socialism. How they sang his praises in the streets as he nationalized companies and corporations! How they rejoiced when he nationalized the oil companies and drove out the greedy foreigners and the hated Yankee multinational corporations! How they cheered as he confiscated the life savings and property of the hated rich, so the people could get their fair share of the wealth! How the people laughed and approved as Chavez gave them permission to smash and loot electronic stores so they could help themselves to free TV's and other electronic appliances and toys.

How'd it work out in the end? I don't know because of the very strange news blackout.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Chavez, like EVERY other politician, was scum. Yet he brought a better, more fair system to his people - away from the corporatocracy.

The Venezuelan state and peoples have been systematically attacked by the USA, CIA, and countless other western forces (ie. UK stole their gold).

How'd it work out in the end? Socialism is still demonized by the West yet wanted by the people. And itt's not over, nor will ever be until the corporatocracy can take over Venezuela and get their capitalism running it, occasionally bailed out be socialism for the rich. Just like the USA.

Fuck the ruling class, their capitalist AND their socialist rigged systems.

[–]Chipit 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Socialism is still demonized by the West yet wanted by the people

What? [citation needed] Nobody wants socialism except far left nutbags. Socialism kills. It'll kill you, too.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Nonsense.

Bernie has a great following. Biden has a great following. Both are idiots that are more republican than leftists. Bernie was a sell out coward when it counted in 2016. Democrats would rather lose to Republicans than to legit progressives. The Democratic Party has been utterly usurped by the CIA. The SJW corporate "Left" is not at all the same as the classic oldschool left. There is no peace movement. They've all been infiltrated and destroyed. Environmentalists are now called eco-terrorists.

And then there's the whole communist history, good, bad, and very ugly - and I won't delve into that. It's clear "socialism" has issues. It's also abundantly clear that capitalism has issues as we've just entered yet ANOTHER recession/depression.

There's the SJW corporate Left, and the "progressive" Bernie/Tulsi left. You're delusional to believe that the USA has the only good system - meanwhile all of Europe, Canada, etc have MORE that just 1 or 2 parties to vote for. THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS that you don't even seem to know about. The USA even has the Green Party and Libertarian Party - yet you are ruled by the corporatocracy warhawk party with two wings to make you think you have choice, keep you fighting each other, and not fighting the ruling class.

USA is no different than China except you actually believe your propaganda.

USA is already ruled by socialism. It is bailing out Wall Street AGAIN. All of your giant War Machines are funded by socialism, whether you want it or not. Same with your government, police, etc etc etc. Further your government is deeply in bed providing socialist support to all the big corporations, from Big Agra to Big Pharma to Big Oil to Big Education to Big Internet.

Yet your government REFUSES to grant you Universal Health Care like all other civilized nations. Meanwhile the public VASTLY desires it, and a better education system - whether you admit those are also socialist concepts or not.

There are 3 kinds of socialism. I only support the non-government version - worker cooperatives, aka worker directed enterprises - where everyone is part boss. You are partly correct that many socialist governments have massive kill counts. Also many do not, but most anti-socialists forget about Northern Europe and Canada, among others.