Capitalism Is A Broken Worthless Outdated System Of Control

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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

$7.25 x 40 hrs/week = 290
290 x 4 weeks = 1160
. . . let's be generous and round it up to $1200 for these poor peasants

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Not nearly enough to survive on. It might be different were it a comfortable amount.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It actually is enough to survive on. Objectively, and factually many people do. When you grow up and stop with the hyperbole maybe we can have an intelligent discussion on the topic.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If you mean surviving with a shitty as fuck life with nothing to spare, no "good" things of life, no vacations, no freedom. I suppose you could move to the third world and live like a king, assuming you could keep collecting.

That means giving up ALL of the things most middle class folks take for granted.

One trip to the computer store, the mechanic, the hospital - and your whole month, if not more, gone in a second.

I'll take my hyperbole over your support of the criminal administration bullshit. Too big to fail means everyone else is too small to succeed.

$1200 is a FUCKING INSULT ! ! !

Sure it's better than nothing, but really they're just preparing everyone for the socialist trap known as UBI.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why would anyone ever work if they could live like a king on welfare? That is not what welfare is supposed to be. You are absolutely not supposed to be living like the middle class while being a fucking worthless leach. You don't deserve vacations, computers, and cars provided to you by better men who work. Least of all to force them to work while you suck the value from their work. Your entitlement is fucking disgusting.

Your entire world view is based on envy, greed, and entitlement. The world would be better of if you did starve. What the hell is the point of keeping people like that alive?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You are absolutely correct. But that's not remotely kingly. And since when do kings or the wealthy or even the upper-middle class actually work as hard as so many of the poor. You're assuming the poor are worthless and leaching. You're also judging who is entitled, rather than letting them judge for themselves. Our world already has a major deficit in compassion. With more people who don't care like you around preferring the poor all starve would only make it much much worse. I don't know where you get my entitlement, much less envy or greed. I'm talking about fairness. The peons get $1200 while the billionaires now get TRILLIONS in bailouts for THEIR FAILURES. The entire system is corrupt, rigged, and utterly skewed so the rewards ONLY go upwards. Who says we actually need to work all the time? How much is too much? Or too little? Show a classroom how to earn $xxxx a day and most of them will start planning all the consumerist shit they want to buy - but I want to hang with the person who plans what they're going to do with the other 6 days of their week.

Also I just realized, this discussion, nothing against you, is not one I want to have. We are debating and judging and nitpicking on the details about the lives of the poor. This is focusing on the wrong thing IMO. NONE of it changes unless the top changes. Whether we're punching or discussing, IMO, it should be aimed at the top. The ruling class' system must always be in the crosshairs.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First of all it is not compassionate for you to demand that someone else take care of the poor. It is still not compassion when you obfuscate that with bullshit language like "it's society that I demand take care of them". Or even when you substitute "the rich" because in your mind their money came from magic or they stole it. What you are advocating for is not compassion but greed. Take from them and give to us. What you argue with is envy. They have more and therefore it isn't fair. You would do well to stop imagining yourself as morally superior.

The peons get $1200 while the billionaires now get TRILLIONS in bailouts for THEIR FAILURES.

What's the matter? This whole time you were arguing for welfare. Now that it went into the wrong pocket according to you it is suddenly bad. And not only is it bad somehow you came to the absurd conclusion that it is the opposite of what you were arguing for and instead it is a natural part of capitalism. I don't even know where to begin to unravel that birds nest of double speak. Of course the bailouts are unfair. The bailouts are Socialist.

Who says we actually need to work all the time?

No one. No one is forcing you to work under capitalism. Why should someone else be forced to work to produce the bread you eat, the clothes you wear, and the drugs you abuse so that you can survive without working? That is slavery. You just distributed that slavery across "society" so you can pretend that it is not someone elses' toil that you are exploiting.

You were told that the world has progressed to the point that robots and automation make it possible that you can create everything with very little work. So that is what you want. The problem is you want that to be given to you. What your teachers cough, brainwashers forgot to tell you is that you have to create it. You have to build the industries that leverage automation. You shouldn't be having discussions about how do we steal wealth, but how do we create wealth. How much of your own savings are you willing to risk to start a factory? How many people who know you would judge you trustworthy with their savings? If the answer is zero, then why exactly do you deserve to be as wealthy as the people who did create industries?