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[–]Tarrock 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Countries exist where people die from malaria and Ebola.

Countries exist where people get paid pennies a day.

Countries exist where you fear for your life everyday due to warlords and rebels

Countries exist where rape is a common occurrence.

But yeah, everything is so shitty here.

[–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

In the USA slavery is illegal - EXCEPT for the prison industrial complex - where some people get paid pennies a day.

In the USA men are raped more than women - only because of the prison industrial complex, an intentionally lawless and brutal system of torture with nothing correctional about it.

I could go on.

Outside of those prisons you is a whole nation and their colonized territories that you obviously have no idea about their shittiness because plastic Hollywood is not interested in truth propaganda.

Please stay an ignorant docile obedient consumer in fear of terrorism and a virus. /s

[–]RickC-137 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Poor Poor Poooooooor violators of the law. Do you think you are talking to people who don't hope that they get violently ass raped? You'd be sorely mistaken.

[–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Right, because no one who ever goes to jail is innocent or targeted and you've only every stayed on the correct side of their arbitrary rigged laws always in favour of the ruling class who wrote them.

Who hopes to be violently ass raped? Who deserves it? Is that what you call "justice" or fairness?

I'm not sore, nor mistaken.

[–]Insert_bad_name_here 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So lets unpack this a rapist deserves to be raped because castration isn't legal. a murderer deserves to be raped in states where capital punishment isn't legal. you do the crime you do the time now i don't think its always fair or always just but at least we aren't the UK they lock up reporters for asking questions.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think I agree, but it's hard to say because your statement doesn't make sense and/or is severely lacking punctuation.

The UK is not the only place. There's more than enough laws like Ag-Gag preventing authentic investigation into many many many things.

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You are scum and your karma will have you pay.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Our voice of reason.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The whole "prison rape" thing is totally overblown. Few men get raped in prison. It's one of those things that people went with a long time ago and never bothered to check if it was true or not.

If you're in prison, it's only suitable that you pay your debt to society by the sweat of your brow.

You know what's a good idea? Not going to prison. Don't stab people and don't be a drug dealer. Mmmkay?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Perhaps it's overblown, but pity those few. It doesn't negate the travesty that is the "justice" system.

More people make plea deals than can actually afford to have a fair trial.

You know what's a good idea? Fair justice.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Always sympathy with the criminals, none with the victims. You need to understand the kind of people who go to prison. They aren't the innocent people you imagine them to be.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I never said anything like that.

I'm saying the sorting mechanism is broken. Firstly, many laws are unfair or just stupid. The war on drugs is a scam and excuse for excessive police. You can't honestly believe that there are more evil Americans per capita than any other nations and therefor deserve more prisons per capita?

Ultimately in this unfair system some good AND the bad are thrown in together. We'll never know because they never get a fair day in court. And the bad aren't going to be corrected in the system as it is. Further, just because a person is an animal doesn't mean they deserve to be treated like one or worse. The way we actually treat farm animals is another abominable story. And if we treat the least of us in this way, how are we to expect anything different from our "superiors" in the ruling class - or soon their corporate A.I. singularity techno-godhead when we are nothing but it's pets/animals of labour.

There is NO shortage of money in the prison industrial system to solve these issues. "They" don't want it improved and it will never be as long as there's no one making them change.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Not a word about the victims. Yup. That's about right.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What would you like me to say about the victims? That's a whole other can of worms entirely.

Would you like me to suggest that vengeance is good? Or that unbridled punishment would make things all better? It might make the surviving victims feel better temporarily but it doesn't remove the initial actions nor does it help the rest of society. And it beats down the criminal who has serious enough problems.

Someone smashes your car and you are permanently broken. No matter what you cannot be unbroken regardless whether they did it intentionally, were drunk, or their tire blew out. If it was the former two then those criminals certainly need their seriously deviant behavior addressed and corrected if possible. Even the latter might have been responsible if driving on bald tires. But punishment is only so effective, and can only satiate those directly affected.

An eye for an eye seems fair-ish. But the first guy to lose an eye didn't ask for it. That's almost paramount to saying that you can murder your ex-girlfriend, "If I can't have her, no one can!" but only if you commit suicide or are murdered too. IMO, it's a theft that can never be paid back.

Violence is a slippery slope. Prison is a form of violence. The state has a monopoly on violence. Police get away with murder. Resist "authority" at what cost? At what point does self-defense become violence? If you get Jewish pornographers coming into your Catholic neighbourhood giving it to children, is it safe to call mobbing him out of town cultural self-defence or is that censorship of free speech?

Natural Law is simple: do not harm (or deceive) others (defense is not violence). Pacifism may be noble but is easily defeated. There is a lot of grey area confusion between minarchism and anarchism that I have trouble with.

The real solution is in the minds of those who are culturally engineered to think certain ways to accept the establishment forced upon us. This includes victimhood and what victims are entitled to.

I don't have all the answers and no one does or can.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can't help but notice that once again, your entire post is about sympathy with evil men and not with their victims.

You know what works to reduce crime? Aging the criminals. It turns out, the overwhelming majority of crime is committed by men aged 15-35. Clap them somewhere where they can't hurt anyone but their own kind, and once they age out of that danger zone, they stop committing so many crimes.

Bet you didn't know that.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Actually I addressed it right off.

" What would you like me to say about the victims? That's a whole other can of worms entirely. "

I have profound sympathy. And that's why I try to expose the even worse systemic criminally corrupt establishment by spreading the word. But that's another story.

I did know that. I agree that aging them certainly helps - but it doesn't need to be under such terrible conditions. Also, criminals go to jail only to learn about how to be better criminals. Maybe if they had more opportunities in there and were less oppressed in the real world they might go for the alternatives to criminal life. Yes, some are gonna be bad - but I suspect many are products of their circumstances.

Why should they be able to "hurt their own kind"? Most of them are non-violent "offenders" of obtuse laws.