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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Okay, rightwinger who sits all day and has blackphobia. You don't need to manipulate anyone to climb the latter, maybe in corporate world but elsewhere you can suffice.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You absolutely need to have significant people skills to reach any professional heights.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, but does that mean manipulation? Did Jesus manipulate anyone? Look at what happened to him.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yes, it means manipulation. Managing people. Influencing them. getting them to do what you want, not what they or someone else wants.

It means recognizing that people are not equal, and that you have a right to treat others as lesser, making them subjects of your will.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, yes, if we are incorporated we are already lesser than our subjects. I agree with you.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I reject that modality, tbh. Me and this particular universe are at odds.