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[–]Drewski 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Where do the wages come from though?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where do the investments, subsidies, tax breaks, etc. come from though?

Or the means of production, raw resources, real estate, etc?

Every enterprise is a group effort within community(s) - yet only the few benefit at the expense of the many.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I agree that Bezos is a dickhead who should pay his workers more and not treat them like crap. I have plenty of problems with the way Amazon is run — the fulfillment center abuse, the website seller relations issues... if there are real issues, though, people should be class action suing the company. I’ve sued two employers successfully for breaking the law in how they treated me. That’s something you can do in a capitalist society that you don’t have the freedom to do in True CommunismTM .

But there’s a clear misunderstanding of capital here. Bezos does not “have” $1B, let alone having “earned” it.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Who has the money for lawyers to file suit?

Define " True CommunismTM " and what proof do you have that there's less, or, no legal recourse under it.

I agree the clever poster simplifies, and it might be more accurate as, "One does not earn a billion dollars. They exploit desperate workers in a matrix of rigged systems that do not even come close to fairly sharing the wealth or means of production, no matter how you define it."

But that doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Who has the money for lawyers to file suit?

Define " True CommunismTM " and what proof do you have that there's less, or, no legal recourse under it.

Say that again.

Differently.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That’s something you can do in a capitalist society that you don’t have the freedom to do in True CommunismTM .

I don't buy that. Courts and laws exist world wide. They're all rigged of course.

Totalitarianism (under one communist leader with the corporatocracy under him) and Inverted Totalitarianism (under one capitalist leader who's under the corporatocracy) is essentially the same thing for us plebs. Some countries share a little more wealth around for a while (a golden age) to build it up before they milk it to the max. Many in the West still hold the same views held in their golden age while "they" strategically dismantle much of it before the upcoming inevitable crash. However now that all the books are clearly rigged (see Catherine Austin-Fitts, etc) and false economic prevails (via Presidential Plunge Protecton Team), they may be attempting to collapse in slow motion - just as they've slow rolled into WW3 since 9-11.

"No one seems to notice, no one seems to care." ~ George Carlin

Most people just don't have any extra means to challenge much less win against their small time bosses up to giant corporations. I can't even afford to take my cat to the vet. The system, where ever you are, is always rigged in their favour.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You forgot ONE THING.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's that?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is true.

VALUE is created by LABOR. CAPITAL increases the value-creating capacity of labor. So in fact, the basis of capitalism is sound: the purveyor of the capital is RIGHTLY JUSTIFIED in PARTAKING of the additional value created by labor through the use of the thusly productive capital: Buildings, equipment, facilities, etc.

HOWEVER, and this is where so-called "capitalism" has gone WAY overboard is where instead of "partaking", the capital owner STEALS all of the additional value AND MORE, driving their workers into destitution worse than if they were peasants raising sheep and living off the land.

You don't believe me? Over the past 60 years, the inflation-adjusted per-worker purchasing power has decreased markedly! Even though the "inflation" number has been doctored for well over a decade now. Maybe 2.

But how is this possible in a so-called free market? It isn't. The market is anything but free. The only free market is the labor market: the one who is the most desperate gets the job, ready to do more work for less pay. And as despair grows, so the trend continues, and corporate profits increase.

We are reaching the breaking point however, when Joe Average just can't make ends meet.

[–]d000x7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Hang them by the first tree you find"

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A+++