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[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lohbird, I hear you. How can a human being not feel something when enountered with the bad stuff spread around these days? The fact that you FEEL is why I have hope for us all. Please be careful and nurture that feeling towards love. You want a cleansing and a restart? You feel it needs to happen through catastrophy? Big changes happen so gradually that you don't notice it. Stay strong, have hope.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

One of the driving forces of the Left today is the destruction of the West. You can't build a social justice society in a capitalist one. You have to totally destroy the capitalist society first, then and only then can you start a fair and just society. You can't reform capitalism from within.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wrong. It can EASILY be done.

First you instate DIRECT democracy, where there are structures and systems in place to let the population stop any measure proposed by politicians if they disagree with it, and force measures that no politician is considering, such as auditing or terminating the Fed.

Second, you instate actual socialism. No, I mean ACTUAL socialism. Not the COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA false orwellian newspeak definition of socialism that most of you have likely been fed. That is the one on wikipedia's English-language page. That's false. Read the true definition here: https://philosophyterms.com/socialism/ Basically socialism (the actual thing, not the brainwashed BS you were brought to believe the term means) controls and curtails the excesses that capitalism is prone to.

For example, laws against child labor are socialism. Pension funds are socialism. Healthcare programs are socialism. Regulations on safety in the workplace is socialism. Socialism does NOT mean "the state owns the companies". That's MARXISM and COMMUNISM. Learn the difference. With the right socialist measures, overexploitation of Joe Average would stop. Individuals would be able to enjoy the fruit of their own labor, which capitalism tends to rob them of, EXACTLY THE SAME AS COMMUNISM.

Socialism requires a capitalist economy. But it isn't surprising that you think they are incompatible and that low social iniquity cannot be obtained with a capitalist economy, since the definition of the word "socialism" has been changed in a massive orwellian newspeak psyop to make you unable to think these things.

Both these things are fairly easily done, but of course starting from the place where the USA is at today, it would require a substantial political upset.

[–]Fuhrer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Whoa there buddy. You're getting awfully close to advocating National Socialism there.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wait, YES I am advocating National Socialism. It is the best system ever invented. It took a nation from utter indigence to #1 world economic power in a decade. Just imagine if the whole world did that.

But noooooooooo coz the word "socialism" means something BAAAAD. Sigh.

[–]Fuhrer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Given my username, I really didn't think a /s was necessary.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It wasn't but I'm explaining for those who might have differing opinions. ;-)