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[–]usehername[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not about access, it's having shit ton of mental health issues related to biphobia.

Such as what and what is biphobia? Some people being rude to a person? I'm sorry but I've never heard of a bisexual who was bullied to suicide for their bisexuality. Maybe from homophobic bullying. And I just really don't see rudeness as anywhere comparable to actual homophobia which involves violence and discrimination.

(since bisexuals are still same sex attracted)

I didn't forget lol. One major points in my OP was that many bisexuals experience a form of homophobia and call it "biphobia".

It's also about unfair treatment.

Can you give me an example of a bisexual being treated unfairly specifically for their bisexuality?

When it's comes to the treatment by trans done to LGB, who do people talk most of being mistreated the most? Lesbians.

First, it depends who you listen to, and second, gays are used to much more horrific treatment so they don't complain about it as much. They're used to real hate crimes, not just hurt feelings.

RadFem lesbians

"Radfem" ideas about the way the world works are ridiculous and myopic, and you'll find that most "radfem lesbians" aren't actually lesbians because radical feminists think lesbianism is two women rubbing their divine femininities together and you can choose to become a lesbian. The whole "women have a fluid sexuality" was specifically pushed by radical feminists because they wanted women to try to become lesbians. And yeah, being pressured into threesomes with men is something that happens to feminine appearing lesbians, since the man has to be attracted to her.

"spicy straights"

1% is still bisexual. They're bihets. I just keep seeing bisexuals who are strict about definitions when it comes to gay and lesbian suddenly decide that these particular bisexuals aren't also bisexual so they can put themselves in a different category from people who do bad things.

[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Such as what and what is biphobia? Some people being rude to a person? I'm sorry but I've never heard of a bisexual who was bullied to suicide for their bisexuality. Maybe from homophobic bullying. And I just really don't see rudeness as anywhere comparable to actual homophobia which involves violence and discrimination.

The discrimination towards bisexual people for being bisexual. Where such people do exist. I have, and when they don't commit suicide, they have negative mental health due to it.

many bisexuals experience a form of homophobia and call it "biphobia".

We know the difference. Mistreatment based on someone being bisexual isn't homophobia. They're not the same thing.

Can you give me an example of a bisexual being treated unfairly specifically for their bisexuality?

The ideas and attitudes some people will have towards bisexuals. Such as they're cheaters, promiscuous, attention seeking, etc. There's also the idea that people think bisexuality doesn't exist. That bisexual women are actually straight, and bisexual men are closeted gay men. That can't be classified as homophobia. Also, you do realize in that specific sect of my previous comment, I was referring to mixed race people right? If you're rude to someone based on something they can't control, race, sexual orientation, sex, etc. That is seen as discriminatory. Especially if you don't treat others, specifically those in the same group as you, the same way. That's unfair treatment.

real hate crimes, not just hurt feeling

The fact is most talked about is lesbians. Pretty sure giving rape and death threats towards lesbians, by transpeople, is a hate crime. Just because they weren't treated as horribly as gay men were in some societies, does not make it any less of a hate crime.

"radfem lesbians" aren't actually lesbians because radical feminists think lesbianism is two women rubbing their divine femininities together and you can choose to become a lesbian. The whole "women have a fluid sexuality" was specifically pushed by radical feminists because they wanted women to try to become lesbians

Wait, so those exclusively same sex attracted women I met who also shared RadFem interests/ideas weren't actually lesbians??? Regardless of how you feel about Radfems, sexual orientation doesn't work like that. There can be genuine lesbians in RadFem (there are), because it has to do with feminism. The idea of "women have fluid sexuality" is not pushed by women, it's pushed by men. The group you're referring to as trying to "make lesbians" are political lesbians. NOT radfems.

1% is still bisexual. They're bihets. I just keep seeing bisexuals who are strict about definitions when it comes to gay and lesbian suddenly decide that these particular bisexuals aren't also bisexual so they can put themselves in a different category from people who do bad things.

A spicy straight isn't bisexual. There is no such thing as "bihet." It has nothing to do with distancing ourselves from the minority of bad bisexuals. Some chick who kisses another girl in the actual scenario where she wants men's attention is not bisexual. She's a spicy straight.

[–]usehername[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The discrimination towards bisexual people for being bisexual.

Define that and give me examples.

If you're rude to someone based on something they can't control, race, sexual orientation, sex, etc. That is seen as discriminatory.

When someone spits on you in the street, yeah. When someone online says "you're a slut" it isn't.

rape and death threats

Gay males experience more actual death and rape. The only death and rape threats or actual actions that would happen to a bisexual are due to their homosexual side. When has a homosexual ever threatened to kill or rape you for being bi? This is what I'm talking about with real discrimination and hate.

Radfems have the idea of "political lesbianism" so you never really know which one of them is a real lesbian, but yes, some of them are. The basis of radical feminism and feminism in general was built by lesbians, radical feminism because lesbians assumed straight women were exactly like them. Political lesbianism is a gigantic part of radical feminist. Exalted radical feminist authors such as Sheila Jeffreys and Julie Bindel are political lesbians. Whether they are genuinely lesbians or not is moot because they believe lesbianism is a choice and they chose it, and so can all women.

There is no such thing as "bihet." .... the minority of bad bisexuals

History says otherwise, and unfortunately they are the majority of bisexuals. Just look at history. Societies where bisexuality was normal for 99% of the population. Compare that to now when bisexuals poll at about 30% of the population because homosexuals are more segregated from the general population and it's less acceptable to engage with them because now instead of being seen as normal, it's seen as being "one of them" even if one isn't. Though it's important to note that in these bisexual societies, homosexuals were treated much worse so this bit of segregation is a good thing. Homosexuals built communities from nothing.

The important part is this: what changed? Nothing changed biologically. Homosexuality has stayed at a pretty constant (approximately) 1% of the population. This is biologically necessary because most people need to breed. Nowadays with higher life expectancy and quality of life, our population is booming, so we really need to cool it on the breeding, but our biology doesn't know that. Still, in order to stay constant, almost everyone needs to have about two children, though we know with intellect (as opposed to biological urges) that more people need to have one or no children so we can gradually reduce the population.

In any case, the word "bihet" describes reality. Yes, these people are mostly (generally by a landslide) straight. They're also most people. This is biologically necessary to keep the population at least constant.

[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Define that and give me examples.

I already gave you my personal definition. I stated that biphobia is the discrimination against bisexuality. I even used an example of mixed race discrimination. That is not exactly black/white, and that people experience specific things issues only related to them, and not the two groups they're from/similar to. Examples of biphobia is the mistreatment of bisexuals based on stereotypes (ex women are sluts, men are in denial gays, and they're cheaters) and outright inaccurate ideas (ex bisexuality doesn't exist).

When someone spits on you in the street, yeah. When someone online says "you're a slut" it isn't.

Depending who it is said towards, and the reasoning behind it can both be discriminatory... You do realize discrimination isn't only about action right? By that logic, if a black person is just called the n-word, it isn't racism. Just because white guy didn't beat them up, doesn't mean he isn't racist. He is still discriminatory.

Gay males experience more actual death and rape. The only death and rape threats or actual actions that would happen to a bisexual are due to their homosexual side. When has a homosexual ever threatened to kill or rape you for being bi? This is what I'm talking about with real discrimination and hate.

Mate, you're really trying to play Oppression Olympics here. I'm just stating that lesbians are seen to receive it more, and people are shown to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean it doesn't occur to gay men. Remove the sexual orientations, and this would just be the same "b-b-but men experience it too!!!!" scenario. Jesus, now I know what lesbians meant... Also, rape that is reported isn't done by homosexuals, but mostly straight men when it comes to bisexual (women). You really think a phobe is gonna differentiate between the two? They don't care to, as long as they know you're capable of same sex attraction, they'll attack. "Real discrimination or hate" this isn't a competition, and all these things are real forms of discrimination and hate.

Again, bihet isn't a real thing. Maybe if you're into Twitter, then sure. Because it is no different to the "homo/heteroflexible" crap or any other nonsense LGBTQ+ has coined. A bisexual is a bisexual. Regardless if they're more same or opposite sex leaning. They aren't straight, they aren't gay.