LGB HistoryAn eye-opening interview with Sylvia Rivera in a 1992 book, Making History

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[–]chazzstrong 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It should be obvious by now that they have no problem rewriting history, definitions, science, pretty much anything at all to achieve their total takeover. I know we try to skirt politics on this board, as it's solely about moving away from the Trans movement, but it really is all tied up into the progressive liberal identitarian ideology so prevalent across the world, which is essentially modern-day Bolsheviks.

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I was going to add that the extent of the rewriting of history on this reminds me of things I've heard that the Soviets did. If you're inconvenient, you get written out of history, even erased from photos. And then there's the social climate where if you say anything against the party line, you may find the next day that you've been fired from your job and are facing arrest.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Unfortunately the TRAs and other Q+++ colonisers will just claim that Rivera et al have been written out by Stalinist revisionists.

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, they are the ones who raised Sylvia Rivera and Marsha P. Johnson to the level of Queer Sainthood and have tried to insist that Marsha was a trans woman. But then, I seem to recall reading some interview with Rivera later in life when she said that she was "tired" of the term 'transgender' or something like that. I actually don't think Rivera ever entirely bought into the whole "trans women ARE women" dogma.

What is pretty clear from the older books on gay history is that contemporary gender ideology did not exist 30 years ago. The current dogma is a very recent invention.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

SHe didn't have the language back then!!!

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really hate this one because it violates one of Foucault's main points about historical analysis: That you can't apply contemporary identity concepts to people who lived before those concepts even existed.

Nowhere does Rivera talk about gender dysphoria, HRT, or a desire to be in a different body.