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[–]MyLongestJourney[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Disclaimer. I, in no way or form attempt to use this case to draw conclusions for the groups of people one of the two young women belongs too.But there are interesting elements in this story,closely linked with the issues of so called gender identity and it's connection with certain neurological and mental diseases.I also have no other place to have an honest conversation about this incredibly sad story. Sigh.. So here it goes.

Five days ago in Athens a 17year old girl brutally murdered her 22 year old girlfriend. Smashed her head with a bottle and stabbed her over 40 times.Allegedly the victim requested to end their relationship,both under pressure from the victims family and the erratic behavior of the perpetrator who suffers from Asperger's syndrome and was also taking medications for bipolar disorder.Her parents had tried for years to find a cure for their daughters mental problems,spending thousands of euros and trying one psychiatrist after another to no avail.The last year she had stopped taking her medications and going to school and the other young woman was meeting with her and trying to comfort her.

The victim's father released a statement yesterday where amongst other things informed the public that the 17year old murderer started identifying as a man since the last year.Then,his daughter who had stopped seeing her girlfriend for many months (threats of legal action against the victims family were issued by the 17 year olds family in order to break them up and her father advised the 23 year old to end it) started meeting with her again until she had finally enough due to her aggressive behavior and requested to end their relationship again.A fight broke up and the 17 year old went amok.She was arrested and due process is being followed.

There is so much to unravel in this. The mental health issues. The parents attempts to end the relationship. The horrible violence which is practically unheard in this country when the murderer is a woman,especially this young. The way this case is used by anti-feminists to attack the concept of feminicide.The connection between autism and gender identity disorder. And finally the tragic loss of life of someone who tried to stand by their beloved.

[–]chazzstrong 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm starting to get really interested in the apparent link between autism and trans-psychosis.
At first I just figured it was all baloney because every kid identifies as autistic these days for sympathy points, and maybe it still is, but even doctors and support staff are weighing in on the phenomenon. Is it just because they are more prone to societal pressure, or is there a deeper link? Sadly we probably won't know for decades due to the taboo the current outrage mob, and what their reaction would be to the mere suggestion.

I also wonder if the 17 year old had started taking testosterone? That would certainly have an effect on her aggression.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The autism link seems to be related to an inability to recognize the difference between men and women until older. For some reason they lack the ability to intuitively understand the difference so they substitute stereotypes as a way to understand the difference.

[–]Chocolatepudding 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Feeling like they don't fit in is very common with autistic children and young people. Or feeling different. Doesn't make them the opposite gender ofc I think it's a hook to hang everything on