LGB ErasureA bigtop circus of comments on /r/lgbt: Apparently I am transphobic because I do not want to date a non-binary person

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[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course, because in current times we are not women but 'non men'. Only trans women are women and better than 'non men'

Or something like that. I have no idea how to keep up with them.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

"After all, what justification is there for a word which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself. Take 'good,' for instance. If you have a word like 'good,' what need is there for a word like 'bad'? 'Ungood' will do just as well-- better, because it's an exact opposite, which the other is not."

Mans and unmans. It's the only exact opposite.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1984 nails it again.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So lesbianism is non-men loving non-men now. It's as though male is now the default value and everyone else falls into the miscellaneous category.

How very progressive.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How come they fail to see how misogynistic it sounds. I am just terrified how quickly this kind of language got adopted as okay. Men as the default. WTF?

[–]Femaleisnthateful 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The women who accept this rhetoric are largely identifying out of 'woman', thereby insulating themselves from the implications of this ideology (so they think).

They don't mind throwing other women under the bus to elevate themselves.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I once read a comment here of a lesbian that explained that she might feel initial attraction, but loses it all once she finds out they identify as non-binary, as her attraction was to those identifying as women.

I would say this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard but unfortunately I had an acquaintance who said something similar but even more stupid. He is bisexual and there was a conversation going on about a certain man being attractive. Acquaintance then declares no the guy is not attractive "because I'm not attracted to straight people." Needless to say everyone else was confused but he is one of those eyeball deep in trans ideology people. He claimed that he could tell if a person was straight by looking at him so it wasn't possible to change his mind after the fact after learning he was straight etc. What made it more ridiculous was he had recently just claimed a few days earlier that it's impossible to tell if a person is trans by looking at them.

People were a bit afraid to agree with me over that issue but everyone there roasted the fuck out of the guy for trying to pretend he had zero sexual attraction to straight people and could tell ahead of time.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It depends on what they mean. If I see an obvious female who is attractive and then learn she identifies as “non-binary,” yea my attraction shrivels up real fast because I am strongly adverse to getting involved with anyone who buys into that toxic way of thinking. Plus it’s often sitting on top of a personality disorder.

But if it’s a self-identified lesbian who acts like identity is the base of their attraction and sex plays no role whatsoever, then yea that makes no sense whatsoever and is not lesbianism. Identity nonsense can remove attraction but it can’t create it.

Does knowing someone’s straight make me lose attraction and interest? Yes, but it’s not like I’m never attracted to straight women. I just tend to be particularly attracted to things I associate with female homosexuality and likewise things I associate with heterosexuality are often turn-offs and/or trigger my self-protective instincts.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People can have an unattractive personality. Being an enby is just 1 of many turnoffs but the idea that's not going to change a person's physical attractiveness.

Just to clarify, the conversation was about Nick Jonas who is by all observations a straight male who has found a niche where he shows off for gay guys at gay clubs and gets tons of attention for it.

Some gay organizations got big mad over it which doesn't make sense to me. He is giving us eye candy but some people seem to be upset at the idea he shows off but wouldn't sleep with them after. Others were implying a toxic idea that because Nick is attractive to gay men then he must be gay. I think the acquaintance was doing something similar but through 50 layers of mental gymnastics in order to make gender ideology make any degree of sense in that conversation.

[–]HelloMomo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If he legit isn't attracted to straight men, good for him! If only we could all be immune to the charms of straight people who will never reciprocate

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure if a hot straight guy lied and just said "I am gay" then the mysterious straight-dar he claimed to have would not function.

[–]Virginia_Plain 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've definitely been attracted to non-binary men, I just won't date them for the same reason I won't date, say, a member of a weird cult. There would be this constant head game of having to say "no, I do not see you as a man at all, I must actually be bisexual" or some shit like that. It would be exhausting. The IRL one I'm thinking of in particular is a trust fund shithead....hot....but a snooty, trust fund shit head. The one conversation I had with him that actually had me thinking "huh, maybe this guy is OK," turned south the moment he started shit talking my other friends.

[–]Rage-Xion 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Chunkeeperson, would you date a non-binary who uses They/Them pronouns?

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No. Nor one who uses any other pronouns.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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