Indoctrination / Doublethink"Pride event in PA featured a stripper pole where they taught kids how to pole dance" - Libs of TikTok video

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[–]chazzstrong 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, the 'slippery slope' comment has gotten insane traction. Everything is being laid at the feet of same-sex attracted folks, because too many of us are letting the trans-lobby and their grooming kink attach it to LGB. And honestly, are they wrong? We're a sub of like 2k people, and there's small groups like LGBAlliance popping up here and there, but our numbers are DWARFED by trans lobby "allies". If you were a normie online, would you believe that the child grooming and gender theory bullshit is apart from LGB or together?

Another one I see being posted around again is this image which, to be fair, is kinda funny in a black-pilled kind of way. I mean a lot of those are dangerously close to happening, if they haven't already, and their biggest proponents are all the same TQ+ group that now represents us same-sex attracted folk on the world stage.

I don't buy into any of this shit, obviously, but it's not hard to see why so many zealots who were against gay marriage all those years ago would.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the thing is, that the "slippery slope" is real, it's just that who's "slope" it is, is misconstrued. It's not LGB people who have any slippery slope, at least not the majority of us. It's a particular type of activist who has us on a slope. Those who want to disrupt society and challenge normativity, they jumped on LGB rights and once that was won, needed new causes to keep disrupting norms.

I've been involved in campaigning. I campaigned for same sex marriage in my country and once that was won, en masse we moved on to abortion rights, as we had none. Once that was won, there was a massive sense of, "now what?" For a lot of us, repealing the ban on abortion rights had literally been part of our identity for decades. It was really tough for that to suddenly be over.

Personally, I decided to get a hobby! But most of my friends went HARD into trans rights (even though we have self-id), attending drag queen kid shows, lots have transed themselves or their kids, etc. They are on a slippery slope. Bit by bit, some seem to be coming off it, and when I get any hint of that, I have careful discussions to try and speed up that exit. But so, so many of them need to be patriarchy smashing activists that they just don't seem to understand what they are actually advocating for anymore.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the thing is, that the "slippery slope" is real, it's just that who's "slope" it is, is misconstrued. It's not LGB people who have any slippery slope, at least not the majority of us. It's a particular type of activist who has us on a slope. Those who want to disrupt society and challenge normativity, they jumped on LGB rights and once that was won, needed new causes to keep disrupting norms.

Completely agree. Honestly, I am starting to wonder if the whole "LGB spaces being colonized by a subset of bored straight people" phenomenon was actually going on for decades before this, and just took off (or became more obvious) with the advent of the internet.

I've been involved in campaigning. I campaigned for same sex marriage in my country and once that was won, en masse we moved on to abortion rights, as we had none. Once that was won, there was a massive sense of, "now what?" For a lot of us, repealing the ban on abortion rights had literally been part of our identity for decades. It was really tough for that to suddenly be over.

That's a great point. I've wondered that sometimes myself, about LGBDropTheT-- once trans ideology becomes unpopular in the mainstream, what'll be the focus of LGB communities and how much time will I spend in them? I think I'll still be quite interested in our issues generally, and maybe shift my attention to rights in other countries, but I would probably devote more time to hobbies as well, honestly.

But so, so many of them need to be patriarchy smashing activists that they just don't seem to understand what they are actually advocating for anymore.

Man, that's sad. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, I guess.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I am starting to wonder if the whole "LGB spaces being colonized by a subset of bored straight people" phenomenon was actually going on for decades before this, and just took off (or became more obvious) with the advent of the internet.

In times past, the hippies were the ones who tried to colonize LGB spaces for their own ends.

The hippie movement was a anti-politics colective though, so most of them weren't exacly inclined to hijack LGB activism, but they still pushed for boundary breaking bs on their day while larping as LGB.