LGB ErasureThis is so sad

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm more perplexed than anything. How do they manage all the mental gymnastics?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah the confusing part for me is that they say things where you need to jump through 150 different hoops to come to the conclusion then when people don't understand they respond with something like:

The cis are so fucking clueless its painful to witness.

Like I am legitimately confused if even they understand all the bullshit and then fake understanding or if they actually live in an alternate reality where what one of them says makes sense to the others. I follow this stuff way more than the average person and can translate most of their concepts but sometimes I read things like this meme and I need to pause and in my brain I have that meme with the guy in front of a corkboard filled with pushpins and string. Then you get someone responding with:

The cis are so fucking clueless its painful to witness.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree, sometimes people say some harmful things to straight people in the queer community and it is lke ‟there are straight people apart of oyur community you idiot, be nice to them.”

L.O.L. if straight people are included in the "queer community", then who exactly are the oppressors?? Who is the class of people with the power to oppress and ostracize us "queers"?!? Asexuals??

My husband and I are the best kind of straight couple. My dad once asked "But if you're both trans... and with each other... then why are you both still trans? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?"

Yes! Because their dad understands that "being trans" is a method of conversion therapy that homosexuals have used to fit into straight society and that it was a source of pity that they had to destroy their bodies to feel ok loving and dating the same-sex. So it makes no sense for a straight person to have to destroy their body to larp as a "queer" while still being in an actual hetero relationship. God, holidays with these people sounds exhausting, I'm sorry for the dad :(

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think trans are considered "queer" whether they're straight or not. Which just goes to show that transition is something that is never accomplished; Otherwise they would cease being trans or "queer" at some point and gasp leave the community... But anyone with eyes can tell they are not the sex they claim to be, so they need to keep using the trans label so people will be more accommodating towards their absurd claims(since queer culture conditioned people into doing that and disregarding their own senses).

Anyway, in the trans world, the "straight" people are gay and the "gay" people are straight; Thanks, gender ideology.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyway, in the trans world, the "straight" people are gay and the "gay" people are straight; Thanks, gender ideology.

Which perpetuates both 1. gay erasure and 2. stereotype reinforcement AKA "gayface" at the same time.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very well-put! Yeah, we're at the ludicrous place now where the only truly, AUTHENTICALLY gay people are... straight. Because "queer" has been deemed the "gold standard" for gayness, and claiming "trans" identity automatically makes you the queerest queer who ever queered. Maybe due to the fact that "queerness" is fundamentally a performance-- all about getting attention, and people's reaction to you-- whereas homosexuality is just... an inherent characteristic; part of who you are... regardless of how it's expressed, or whether anyone notices. And since straight people have decided that "gay" needs to be ✨FABULOUS✨ (with rainbows comin' outta yer ass) 24/7, well, that's just not good enough.

Makes me wonder if this might be the real-life equivalent of what Hollywood used to do with gay characters: have them played by indisputably-straight actors. Because the audience was only comfortable with a "gay person" when they knew that they weren't REALLY gay at all. And it was, in fact, just a safely-straight person... pretending. I often sense something similar where the enthusiasm for TQ+ is concerned. It's gay people as imagined by straight people. Just like "trans" is women as imagined by men (and vice-versa).

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

RIP Snappy, I AM THE NEW GOD!

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