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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah, I think it's pretty strange and coincidental to "suddenly" realize you're gay as soon as your husband "realizes" he's actually a woman. And instead of just saying, "Well, I still love my husband regardless of his outward appearance and it doesn't bother me if he dresses and styles himself like a woman," they think that, and come to the conclusion that because they still love this person who now says he's a woman, that must make them a lesbian.

No doubt that this comes from the sort of mental gymnastics that trans people do like, "Well, I was always a woman, so the whole time you've been with me, I've been a woman."

I know that it's possible and not terribly uncommon for some gay person in denial to enter a heterosexual relationship, get married, and even have kids before waking up and realizing they're gay. But that usually involves leaving the heterosexual relationship. If your husband puts on a dress and grows his hair out and you maintain feelings of sexual attraction to him despite that, you're still straight.

[–]Aurelius 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Exactly, I'm curious what sort of conversations and activities this couple did to simultaneously lead them to this conclusion, of that is what happened. Claiming such is giving them a lot of attention anyways... But hey at least it spiced up their marriage for them?

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have my doubts that the non-trans woman is actually a lesbian. I'm sure she's a lesbian in the same vein as transbians are lesbians, in that she feels like because her husband is a "woman" then that makes her a lesbian. But saying "I realized I should call myself a lesbian if my husband calls himself a woman" doesn't win anyone any brownie points. Dollars to donuts this woman is either deeply unhappy and staying in this situation for the supposed benefit of the kids or she is just mentally unwell as her husband and doesn't care what's being said about her as long as people are talking about her.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly, I'm curious what sort of conversations and activities this couple did to simultaneously lead them to this conclusion

Probably not healthy ones. I posted this article about a horrific domestic violence case ages ago, committed by an AGP husband against his bisexual wife. Just horrible. In that case, the husband pressured her into staying with him and having sex with him by saying: "I'm a woman. If you're really bi and not just a straight woman, you should be attracted to me."

Which is utter nonsense... even if he were a woman, that wouldn't mean that other women have to be attracted to him in order to be bisexual!

[–]Aurelius 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What's sad is the amount of ""woman"" on women rape and violence registered in forensic databases is going up since many trans women are no longer being registered as men.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, this really frightens me. How it's going to be used to further stigmatize lesbians, of course... and also as ammo against women's need for single-sex spaces/protection from male violence. Because if we women are just a bunch of brutal thugs ourselves, men must not really pose any threat to us, right? Hell, it might just as easily be the other way around! So when yet another dude-with-ladyfeelz is caught being predatory in the women's restroom, it'll be dismissed with, "well, that's just what you gals are like, after all!" :(

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ughhhhhh. And all this just fuels stereotypes about lesbian women even more. We're one of the most erased demographics at this point... it drives me insane.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know that it's possible and not terribly uncommon for some gay person in denial to enter a heterosexual relationship, get married, and even have kids before waking up and realizing they're gay. But that usually involves leaving the heterosexual relationship. If your husband puts on a dress and grows his hair out and you maintain feelings of sexual attraction to him despite that, you're still straight.

Honestly... there's more awareness of "transbians" these days than there is of real lesbians. Maybe they literally don't know what a lesbian is. Stonewall and HRC and media outlets keep claiming men represent lesbians, so maybe some people really ARE confused.