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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Even today, I still don't know how people still have the energy to throw hissy fits about this, and I'm talking about both sides here.

Disney still doesn't have the balls to commit to any serious representation besides blink-and-you-miss-it scenes that will probably get removed on international releases.

It's also important to remember that they (and the entire western cartoon industry) use lesbians as their go-to LGB representation because they see female same-sex relationshps as "safe" for most audiences, not due to actual concerns about their depiction on media.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the lesbian bias is because most homphobes fall into one or both of the following: they fetishize lesbians, or their hatred of homosexuality is relating to some ancient book talking about sex, and sex is defined by the presence of a penis, and therefore lesbians are ok or otherwise less terrible because they can't have "real" sex. Gay men are the absolute worst because they defy what men "ought" to do and pervert their antiquated idea of sex by doing it up another guy's butt rather than in a vagina. Lesbians are not terrible because they don't have "real" sex and straight men often love to watch lesbian porn. That's why they're "safe" for more audiences.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lesbians are not terrible because they don't have "real" sex and straight men often love to watch lesbian porn.

Exactly, they don't see women as actual competition and most traditions don't consider lesbian sex to be actual sex.

Also considering how the animation industry is, I don't doubt there's some male animator getting off on the lesbian relationships they write/animate.

[–]Kai_Decadence 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And also there could be gay men working on stories that are kid friendly that happen to feature a gay couple in it but is getting turned down because of the double standard. And I'm not excusing the creepy lesbian fetishism mind you, that's just poor taste and creepy.