Disney's is pushing sexuality onto kids before their time in their woke movies. Look at this degeneracy.

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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Even today, I still don't know how people still have the energy to throw hissy fits about this, and I'm talking about both sides here.

Disney still doesn't have the balls to commit to any serious representation besides blink-and-you-miss-it scenes that will probably get removed on international releases.

It's also important to remember that they (and the entire western cartoon industry) use lesbians as their go-to LGB representation because they see female same-sex relationshps as "safe" for most audiences, not due to actual concerns about their depiction on media.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think the lesbian bias is because most homphobes fall into one or both of the following: they fetishize lesbians, or their hatred of homosexuality is relating to some ancient book talking about sex, and sex is defined by the presence of a penis, and therefore lesbians are ok or otherwise less terrible because they can't have "real" sex. Gay men are the absolute worst because they defy what men "ought" to do and pervert their antiquated idea of sex by doing it up another guy's butt rather than in a vagina. Lesbians are not terrible because they don't have "real" sex and straight men often love to watch lesbian porn. That's why they're "safe" for more audiences.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lesbians are not terrible because they don't have "real" sex and straight men often love to watch lesbian porn.

Exactly, they don't see women as actual competition and most traditions don't consider lesbian sex to be actual sex.

Also considering how the animation industry is, I don't doubt there's some male animator getting off on the lesbian relationships they write/animate.

[–]Kai_Decadence 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And also there could be gay men working on stories that are kid friendly that happen to feature a gay couple in it but is getting turned down because of the double standard. And I'm not excusing the creepy lesbian fetishism mind you, that's just poor taste and creepy.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

^ Was about to comment along these lines. I think you nailed it.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Another good point, especially the fetishizing aspect...

[–]Kai_Decadence 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. I'm all for lesbian representation but that seems to be the go-to for a lot of media representation and it would be nice if we saw some gay representation as well.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is in the context of the reaction to Lightyear.

[–]Kai_Decadence 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

EXACTLY. I get part of the reason why certain people, usually conservatives complain about homosexual relatioships in kids cartoons because they think it's "unnatural" based on what they read in a book but it's really stupid when anyone acts like a gay character existing in kids media is "pushing the gay agenda". Fuck off. First off, you can't be "turned" gay, you either are or you're not. And second, if we can have scenes like that or any other Disney animated classic that had intimate bonding between a man and woman without it being super skeevy and sexual, then the same can be done with gay & lesbian relationships as well. With gays & lesbians, you don't have to show their sex life, simply holding hands or kissing is enough just like the hetero relationships they show in these movies.

Honestly this little short is one of the best examples of kid-friendly gay representation in my opinion. Silly, innocent, and wholesome. And here's a more recent one. Again, totally safe and wholesome like any other kids-media. Nothing demonic about it lol.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Honestly this little short is one of the best examples of kid-friendly gay representation in my opinion. Silly, innocent, and wholesome.

Jesus christ. Was not expecting that to make me cry. That was amazing. Thanks for sharing!!! I'll definitely share that with other people.

The shot in the school was what got me, lol. The looks from other people and the two boys' reactions. Too real. It was very thoughtfully portrayed. (edited to clarify)

[–]Kai_Decadence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No problem! I felt the same way when I first watched it back what it released, it was so wholesome and totally relatable to us gays who actually did have crushes on other boys but were too nervous to express it for the obvious (the judgement from other kids like what was illustrated in the video). But yet people bitched and complained about that short (it has a pretty big dislike bar) because it was "pushing the gay agenda" onto kids...

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Damn. Just watched it and this video is just wholesome. No gay agenda. It's just human experience - just less common, but make it straight and somehow it's not longer "agenda" XD

[–]Kai_Decadence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. It's fucking annoying and hypocritical lol That's pretty much how I gauge on whether people are truly accepting or not. If they look at media like that or the other one I linked and they say it's pushing an "agenda", that to me just shows that they never were accepting of homosexuality.