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[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want me to delete this I will

OH no you're fine. I'm open to all feedback!

AGB is currently the main target of Reddit's thought police (AgainstHateSubreddits). You might just be wasting your time arguing with women who think they're men, rather than actual gay men.

Oh I didn't know that. With that in mind, I really hope that most of the gay men there actually don't believe this bullshit but are just keeping quiet so they don't get harassed by the troon brigade.

Most GAMPs are into women and feminine men, so yeah, most GAMPs are bisexual. There are probably some gay men who are only into feminine men and I'm not sure if they'd be called GAMP according to the academics;

Exactly. It's bisexuality at the end of the day but moreso conditional where in this type of bisexual's case, they're attracted to femininity regardless of the sex of the person.

I think the idea of GAMP being a fetish is kind of bullshit in the first place. I used to be more conflicted about this but honestly I've come to believe that the GAMP label perpetuates a misunderstanding about this very specific subset of bi men: saying that they have a fetish and are somehow not bisexual. If they're attracted to both sexes... they're bi.

I' feel thye same way. I don't believe for a minute that it's just "simply a fetish". If these men can maintrain an attraction to feminine men who are GNC, it's still an active homosexual attraction whether they like it or not. The real issue here is the internalized homophobia that bisexua men are especially more prone to having. They go their lives thinking they are straight because they experience next to no sam e sex attraction with other men because most men in society are gender conforming, even the effeminate gay men who may act flamboyant and/or effeminate but still present in a fairly masculine-ish way. But then they come across a guy who actually likes to present in a feminine fashion and BAM their bisexual awakening is triggered because they're exposed to a rare kind of man who actually doesn't coform to masculinity in his personal appearance and they find it attractive but they have internalized homophobia because they don't want to be seen as or thought of as gay so they delude themselves into thinking these kinda men aren't "real men".