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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It isn't biphobia not to want serious relationship with a bisexual. Phobia is irrational fear, while not wanting to date seriously someone wired for male craving is a legit reason to reject someone like anything else, and actually one of the most rational and not superficial to have. Said by someone who doesnt see bisexuality as dealbreaker, but can't stand this bs about lesbian wanting to date exclusively others lesbians being someone bad for doing so. Your friend with her gigantic dating poll is going to be fine.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Phobia is irrational fear

FYI, "Phobia" is a misnomer; in the context of homophobia/biphobia it simply means prejudiced against (just wanted to clarify in case you didn't know).

while not wanting to date seriously someone wired for male craving is a legit reason to reject someone like anything else, and actually one of the most rational and not superficial to have.

Look... I don't want to start another argument, so maybe this is a conversation better had in DMs, but honestly, that does seem like an irrational fear to me. I've tried to understand it the few times I've seen this topic come up, but I just don't. It makes no sense to me to rule out even a bi woman who is like a 5 on the Kinsey scale, who centers women in her life and who is only rarely attracted to men. I don't think that lesbian women who blanket refuse to date bisexuals are "bad people"! And they have the right to do whatever they want with their lives. But I do think that they are being a little irrational. My own experience/perspective is that I have no problems with dating a bi woman, but perhaps I'm missing some piece of insight here. If someone wants to share a different perspective, I'd be curious to hear about it because I'd really like to understand this.

Again, though, maybe this conversation would be better continued in DMs, if you don't mind explaining it to me, Elvira.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Phobia can be irrational aversion too, but not prejudice.

Kinsey 5 are almost in the lesbian camp, and would be a great preferance of mine in terms of trust. But is that real kinsey 5? A woman who is constantly homo leaning, or someone who is homo leaning just for few years and then go back to strong hetero attraction? Bicycle exists, especially in young adult. The phrase "homosexuality is a phase" can be true for bisexuals

It isn't irrational not to feel safe with a partner whose sexual nature isn't stable. Real homo leaning bisexuals in stable way for life, are as rare as homo, theyre mostly hetero leaning or half and half.

It isn't irrational not to want a long term relationship with someone wired for opposite sex craving. Relationships can always end and feelings can change, but this is even way more likely when you're partner sexuality is only partially satisfied, and their nature has a strong craving for your opposite sex.

The whole dating thing is irrational, based on irrational feels, and often very shallow, homosexuals wishing for partner of equal nature it is one of the most rational wish based on objective factors for the security of bond and peace of mind

It doesn't matter how much you like someone, if you wish for a relationship likely to last decades or until old age, investing yoyr emotions and making yourself vulnerable to immense pain, you must to look for long term perspective, and many women will be very poor long term perspectives, in many cases, for their sexual wiring, and recognizing it, it is the opposite of irrational. An irrational person would just staying with someone cause they're beautiful you have all these dopamine fueled feelings for her. That would be irrational.

And I repeat, I find it absurd to portrait bisexuals, who have tons of choices, as victims, because of the legitimate desires of some homos to date long term people of their nature and calling them irrational. First, because as said it isn't irrational, and even if it were (and it isn't at all), the whole attraction thing it is irrational, so doesn't make any sense to see irrationality as a bad thing in this matter. And second, because homosexuals are extremely at disadvantage because of their numbers, so questioning the dating choices, done to increase the chances of long term success and preserve themselves from mental pain, it it is even more unfair (as it is already unfair to question people private choice of dating in general, but even worst in this case). It isn't acceptable to call people phobic for their legimate dating choices. So conclusion: only phobic is mistreating people, not, not wanting to have long term monogamous relationship with them.

[–]MyLongestJourney 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very well said. The fear is not irrational,the concerns are real,if you want a long term relationship. I would also add the following :

1.the issue of STDs,as women who have sex with men have a way higher chance to get one than women who have sex exclusively with other women.

2.The heterosexual couples who use the woman as a bait to lure women in a threesome. Went to a couple of dates with bisexual women,only to end up in this previously undisclosed prospect.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When I first commented on this thread, I didn't realize that OP was trying to stir up trouble, but I see that now and I don't want to fan the flames, so I'm going to stop responding to the thread now. That said, I just replied to Elvira elaborating on my thoughts, if you're curious. I totally get why many lesbian women are hesitant to date bisexual-identified women for practical reasons like the ones you just described.