DiscussionWhat do you think will be the catalyst that puts an end to the Trans Cult?

submitted by Kai_Decadence from (self.LGBDropTheT)

Like to me, I thought the trans cult would finally come to an end and die off when the Olympics happened and those two men were dominating the women's competitions because of course they did, they're men, not women. And don't get me wrong, it actually did peak and snap some people out of that cult mentality but not as many as I was hoping it would.

Then we had this story which is absolutely revolting and messed up and you'd think it'd have impacted more peak trans moments but perplexing enough, I saw some people defending it. "Not all trans' they shout and chant. Eugh. Just mindless since it's not that all trans-identified people are child molesters and rapists but it's the principle that bad people are able to use the ideology to get away with shit because the ideology is senseless.

I'm just wondering what it would take to see the cult finally die or at the very least, stop being pushed into legislative law.

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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't think there's going to be 1 big thing that happens that suddenly makes the public take it seriously. I think it's going to be the result of many things just adding up until people get tired of pretending.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh for sure, it's pretty clear it won't be one particular incident that will change the course but I think we can all agree that we can't wait for that day to come.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The biggest problem is this whole thing is predominately an internet based phenomenon and since most of the internet is english language based and US owned. Even if say Sweden pushes back against the ideology in their own country, which it looks like they are doing at least in regards to child transition, their kids are still going to be on US owned websites reading about this shit in english and having adults try to groom them into it.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hadn't even thought about that and you're right...

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know, it's like a ton of liberals have fallen into some sort of mass psychosis. I don't know what it's going to take to wake them up.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's just so scary you know? Like how some of these people blindly follow this harmful ideology that is ruining people's lives and they just turn a blind eye to it.

[–]ElectraHeart 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Its not a fad, its not a mass psychosis, not a harmful ideology. Its a rebranded homophobia. Nothing has changed in the word. "Gay men have a hormon imbalance that makes them act like opposite gender" of the old is now "if you play with dolls you are a girl". Nothing about homophobia has changed. Heterosexuals are still the same heterosexuals, they still hate us to guts.

Transexualism is accepted this fast, because it confirms the heterosexual point of view about homosexuality. And its not really going to go away, like the slavery who became mass incarcaration / Jim Crow. It will only take newer and newer shapes. We will fight some more forever.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Depressing lol

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not a fad, its not a mass psychosis, not a harmful ideology. Its a rebranded homophobia.

I mean... it can be several of those and also be rebranded homophobia. I would agree it's not just "mass psychosis," but I would definitely call it a harmful ideology.

It will only take newer and newer shapes. We will fight some more forever.

I'm not convinced. I think at the very least, we can get to a point where there's very very little homophobia in the everyday lives of LGB people around the world. Maybe not eradicate it completely.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No light at the end of the tunnel from I sit I’m afraid. The whole debate needs to be decoupled from the left-right paradigm so people stop taking sides based on how they vote and ignoring the real impact on individual lives and western society as a whole.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is so true. It gets so annoying how those of use who are left leaning get called conservative because we're against people mentally and physically harming themselves with the nonsensical lie that they can change sex through surgeries and hormones. I think if more left-leaning gender critical people come out and be known, it can help with this.

[–]jim_steak 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it will stop when the social backlash outweighs the profits to pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, surgeons etc. According to this business insider article, the sex change surgery market alone is a multi-million dollar market that's set to become a billion dollar market in the next few years. The reason there's a "trans rights movement" is because NGOs and media outlets are for-hire social engineering organizations that have been paid to market transgenderism to people.

In terms of what will push it over the edge, I think the trans kids stuff is a pretty big red line for most people, to the point that even the people who are defending it have to simultaneously pretend that it's not happening.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm so perhaps the thing that will finally tow the tipping point is when we see a swarm of lawsuits being pushed against the medical field by a generation of physically fucked men and women who were sold the lie of changing sex and ended up harming their bodies in the long run then.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think that it will be "trans kids" committing suicide en masse and detransitioners/bereaved parents suing the medical providers that facilitated transitioning. I'm sure there are some lawyers who have been cancelled many times before and would be willing to take on the cases that will rise up.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel like you might be 100% right with this one. When these kids grow up and start experiencing the negative health side effects of the excessive, prolonged HRT use as well as the physical fallout if they've gotten the "surgeries", they wil lturn to the lawyers and we'll se a wave of lawsuits stacked against the medical facilities. Maybe a bunch of these young people will come together to pull it off, like what Keira Bell did only this time, with a larger group fighting for the same cause.

Hopefully we will see this happen.

[–]question-the-garlic 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This. I think (hope) that when these kids become adults it will become undeniable how twisted this has all been.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We can only hope for sure. That has to be the final straw. If they ignore this then that just shows there is no conscious with these corporations.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Enough policymakers and medical / legal professionals getting exposed and embarrassed, probably. And more high-profile transition-related suicide / attempts that lead to parents / fans / whomever caring more about those people than they do about their dogma du jour.

People start to wake up more the more they personally relate to the issue at hand.

And I hate that we're basically asking "how many more people need to hurt or kill themselves before this will be curtailed."

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right... It's only a matter of time if we get more Jazz Jennings type cases with the kids as well as the fucked health that the older people will have before they're even in their 50s-60s.

[–]MyLongestJourney 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fucking with children. This will be the end.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same, it's gotta be.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know, until people are tired of lying ? Because they know it's bullshit they just want to be "nice" no matter what it cost. And they're also pretty scared of public opinion I guess ? I really don't know what would make the general mass to understands that it's just not a good ideology and that it hurts people. But I'm sad that instead of enjoying ourselves, accepting ourselves, celebrating gender non-conformity, hanging out with eachothers and showing that LGB people just want to live their life peacefully, we're stuck with this TQ+ nonsense. It's a waste of fucking energy and time for everybody, when we could do so much more good things. But hey let's prioritize the snowflakes feelings instead and give them hormones so they can cope with having too much free time and money.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree with you 110% on this. The TQ++++ really did a number on the LGB and makes us look like raving loonatics. We've all heard the whole "At first they just wanted rights to live indiscriminately", and "now they're taking it too far", these people think we gays and lesbians are trying to push the TQ onto everyone when most of us don't buy into it neither, they latched themselves onto the community and it opened the floodgates for all insanity.

But I feel you're right, sooner or later society as a whole is gonna have enough of this shit as the TQ+++ keep making more and more demands. We're already having "trans age" be a thing and holy knows what kinda BS that is gonna bring.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it'll take some brave people-- especially those in the US-- in positions of power to start publicly speaking out against transgender ideology. Speaking of: did you see the Bill Maher video?? That's awesome! I think if we could get at least a few more mainstream people like him, then we'll hit a critical mass in the US and these issues will start to be talked about more openly. JK Rowling is doing a great job with this in the UK, but in the US we really need an outspoken and culturally relevant ally like that. I think this is especially important because a lot of other countries follow the US's lead on cultural issues and policies; if things change over here for the better, then some other countries will be likely to follow.

That's just my 2 cents. Already there has been some pushback on the legislative front, fortunately. It's just being spun by news outlets as "hatred towards trans people!!" when really it's safeguarding of children...

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So sorry for the really late response, I have been so busy in my personal life LOL I believe you're right that it's gonna take those in power who speak out against the ideology where we will truly see the pendulum shift back to sanity. I hadn't seen that Bill Maher video but holy fuck YES, can count on him to not hold punches and sprinkle some reality in his show. I'm not surprised he hasn't be fully swept up by the ideology, he always seemed like more of a free thinker type from what I've seen of him. And very aware of JK Rowling, she's been doing a great job holding her ground though tbh, she needs to stop giving slight tow to trans-identified people by saying things like "I support trans-identified people's rights" because all that does is put a target on her back and people to call her a hypocrite. She needs to just own being called a "transphobe" because in reality, the word is meaningless. But aside from that, she's doing a smashing job.

Hopefully we will see more push back as the years go by.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hope so, too. The "Cass report" is the next upcoming big thing in the UK, I think-- they're doing a super-thorough investigation on the Tavistock gender identity clinic. And Allison Bailey's trial concluded recently, I'm not sure when the final verdict comes out but maybe sometime later this year?

No worries, take as long as you need to reply! Hope everything's going well in your life :)

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah okay, I'm not in the UK but I know that they are a bit more sane (compared to America) when it comes to this so hopefully we see some more push back when The Cass Report comes up.

[–]Porphyria 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sooner or later, one of them will rape one too many little girls in a bathroom.

No one seems to care about women behind bars ; no one seems to care about the humiliation and degradation of teen girls at the hands of their "trans" male classmates, by being forced to be in the same rest rooms and showers as them ; no one cares about older women forced to share hospital rooms or rooms in elder care facilities with trans women.

It's going to take multiple pre teen girls being raped by trans age autogynephiliacs, and sooner or later, there'll be one too many.

IOW, there's a lot more suffering to come.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really don't want this so happen to other girls and women who never asked for this but unfortunately this is probably the only way people will finally wake the fuck up and realize that the ideology is nonsense and is being used by horrible men to commit crimes against women and girls.

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know. I think when the first big wave of transed kids are grown up, left with the horrible side effects of the puberty blockers and whole shebang, and free from the cultish environment. The latter might be a problem as I have no idea how they can get out of it. Especially when the whole transing began they're were toddlers, like Jazz Jennings.

This is depressing as fuck.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm really holding out hope that when the first big wave of transed kids grow up and now have to lived with fucked up health in their 20s-30s, this will be the wake up call that we warned of.