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[–]jay-dayGold Star Gay Woman[S] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Some terms I can suggest are

Briefs Ceiling or Trunks Ceiling for bi men.

Panties, Silk, Polyester Ceiling for bi women.

I believe that lumping bi men and women together with homosexuals ignores the sexual harassment they face from TRAs that are unique to them. They are already invisible in many aspects of life, but it's extremely important they should not be in terms of sexual harassment and coercion.

[–]SilverWolf 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Aren't these terms used by trans people when someone won't sleep with them? I don't think they really care about the difference in the way they harass gay people and the way they harass bi people.

[–]PriestTheyCalledHimBisexual 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't be naive, for at least almost two decades I have heard from T/Q and TRAs that 'Bisexual is literally violence, transphobic, and you must identify now as (the slur) queer, or pansexual!!1'

[–]Sapphicatalyst 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I remember years ago when bi was accepted as only attracted to men/women, and pan meant attracted to men/women/trans. Then again, I personally don't think adding the letter "P" to the alphabet soup is a good PR move.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you live at Ground Zero for TQ+ insanity? Two decades is a lot longer than most of this has been around in a visible way as far as I've ever heard and I live in a pretty LGB[unmentionables]-friendly place.

[–]PriestTheyCalledHimBisexual 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suppose I might? I saw trans people in public before they became super mainstream, and trans people would go to my city to get surgery as it was not done elsewhere. Granted these were adults, not children or teens and they were in super low numbers like maybe five or six trans people for a million non-trans. I would talk to the trans people and they told me how they had gone through years or decades of psychotherapy and lived as the sex they are biologically and genetically before ever deciding as adults to transition. This is not happening today at all.

Also it was always super open and accepting of LGB people even during the 1960s and 1970s and before Stonewall, but most people were discreet or kept it private.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen everything you described above in pretty much the same way, except for this, which I have never heard uttered until the last few years: "Bisexual is literally violence, transphobic, and you must identify now as (the slur) queer, or pansexual!!1"

Hence why I was asking. If any of the small number of trans people I knew 20+ years ago had that attitude they sure weren't admitting it around anyone I knew who knew them, or around myself.