BisexualLesbians Have the “Cotton Ceiling” and Gay Men Have the “Boxer Ceiling.” Is There a “Ceiling” for Bisexuals?

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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 20 insightful - 8 fun20 insightful - 7 fun21 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Logic.

This is all it needs to be called for any of us, L, G, or B. The Logic Ceiling.

[–]PriestTheyCalledHimBisexual 16 insightful - 12 fun16 insightful - 11 fun17 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

The fuck no, red flag ceiling.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 11 insightful - 10 fun11 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

Bloomer ceiling,

Pantaloon ceiling

[–]HelloMomo 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think making up your own ceiling name is really how it works (the other two are terms created by TRAs) because the word "ceiling" itself is part of a "break though the ceiling" idiom.

That being said, bisexuals being treated like a communal sexual resource is certainly a problem.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is very much a problem and a gross one.

Also we can totally claim this ceiling nonsense and define it according to our terms. Even if we didn't come up with this bit of territory, they're shoving it at us, so let's just take it over already.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ironically, that's probably why some stay in the closet in one way or the other. Choice. Come out and lose it, in more ways than one.

Anyway, the ceilings are indeed TRA made terms/concepts meant for trans, but if I were to think of something for bisexuals, it wouldn't be a ceiling they'd have to break, but a valley they'd have to transverse(pun not intended): The Uncanny.

Afaik, no one has made it to the other side...

[–]SilverWolf 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

lesbians and gay men to "break down our sexual boundaries" because saying "no" is discrimination

and

the trans community just sort of "expect" bisexuals to sleep with them.

These are your answer, lesbians and gay men have a major sexual boundary of "no dicks" or "no vaginas" but you'll never hear a real bisexual person have an issue with either of those, meaning that being bi is "acceptable" and there is no need to convert them. Theres also the possibility that, since cotton refers to lesbian women and boxer refers to gay men, bisexuals just get grouped in with whatever sex they are.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

you'll never hear a real bisexual person have an issue with either of those

Erm...yes you will, when we are presented with poor approximations of those bits attached to the wrong bodies.

[–]SilverWolf 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ok yeah, but those aren't the real thing so I wasn't considering those

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Won't it be great when we can get back to that as our default understanding? /rhetorical /sarcasm

[–]Virginia_Plain 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

The Cotton/Poly blend ceiling?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose TRAs would call it the "sexism ceiling". Because they would find it "sexist" that a bisexual person would have different expectations for what a man has as to what a woman has.

I just call it reality.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think we need a ceiling name, because they assume that bisexuals should automatically be attracted to trans people since we already like both, and they try to convince us to believe that trans people are the "best of both worlds". They say that we "don't have an excuse to have 'genital preferences'." We're not allowed to like our men to be men and our women to be women anymore. We're all just sexual freaks that are expected to coddle and have sex with them after everyone else turns them down.

Even if they initially don't want to go after bisexuals,** they use us as their last resort when they can't find any homosexuals (or heteros for the HSTS) to go after them to "affirm" their new gender.

On a side note: I'm pretty sure that we don't have any recorded data on this, but I'm pretty sure that like at least 70-80% of bisexuals, if not WAY higher, actually see trans people as the WORST of both worlds.

** Quite a few trans people actively AVOID dating bisexuals initially, because no matter how woke their partner is or how much they affirm their partner's genderfeelings, they don't want to deal with the idea that their partner sees them for the sex that they really are. Case in point: An HSTS trans-ID-male went on a date with a man who turned out to be bisexual, HSTS goes into psycho, calls him a "transphobe" and a "faggot" for being into men. Also quite a few cases of AGPs saying that they prefer dating "real lesbians" over bisexual women.

[–]stunaep 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Off-topic a little, but in your post, are you just calling "lesbophobia" the female version of homophobia and reserving "homophobia" only for males? We experience homophobia in different ways but it's still the same root. Idk I'm just confused about your use of language here.