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[–]motss-pb 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Regarding the blue and pink flags for gay men and lesbians, I'm of the mind that we should unequivocally reject these flags and remove them altogether. Honestly, they belong in the same category as the progress pride flag. We really need to be more aware of how every aspect of gay culture has been modified within the past few years to align with gender ideology. It's not just the corruption of our history and the language we use to describe ourselves. It applies to our symbols as well.

When people start telling you that gay men and lesbians are now represented by blue and pink gender-coded flags that originated on tumblr, that didn’t exist ten years ago, and that have no historical significance, you should be skeptical. Is it coincidence that both these flags have a white stripe in the middle just like the trans flag? No it is not. Please ditch these flags.

[–]lunarstrain 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Completely agree. I know some of the real lesbians in my generation like and/or choose the redesigned lipstick flags but I can't stand them. To me they represent the acknowledgement of TQ-flavored tumblr identity politics on a larger scale. I remember being shocked at the time how quickly the "new" lesbian flag took off and was now available in a bunch of stores on various things.

[–]ElectraHeart 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why I raised this issue to the mods. It was really weird for me to come the original drop the t and start seeing the toothpaste flag, got tumblr flashbacks. And funnilly even the toothpaste flag is not enough for the gender cult.

I remember being shocked at the time how quickly the "new" lesbian flag took off and was now available in a bunch of stores on various things.

I know lesbians do not like the gay flag being for gay men, but thats also how I felt when Baker's flag got replaced by toothpaste flag. It felt like we did not matter anymore, in our own movement.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Regarding the blue and pink flags for gay men and lesbians, I'm of the mind that we should unequivocally reject these flags and remove them altogether.

Lol, I misread that at first and thought you were advocating for removing all flags. Was like Bruh, you're using one hahaha.

It's an interesting argument; I kinda see your point. I wish there was just a "same sex attracted" flag. Like a flag that was very clearly meant to delineate ALL LGB people and ONLY LGB people. Is that the rainbow flag? Maybe it's the TRA brainwashing affecting me, but when I see the rainbow flag I don't really interpret it that way.

If there were some clear way to signal LGB-only and LGB-all solidarity specifically, I would be interested in using that.

edit: What's your opinion on symbols, like double venus and double mars? (Unsure if bisexuals have one, see top comment.)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just went through all our flaired users, and we currently have 9 active users who use either the blue or pink striped flags. I'm hoping we'll hear their input on this as well.

I'm considering "active" if they've posted or commented in the past 3 months - there's plenty of abandoned accounts or sleeper alts too, but I'm not concerned about their opinions since they're really a part of.