you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Tikiri 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don’t know ... I just don’t think this will happen, at least not in our lifetime. Now, I may just be a hopeless “look on the bright side” optimist, or maybe clueless about the intricacies of legal procedures, especially when it comes to the SC.

However, the fact remains that most American conservatives oppose abortion, whereas most conservatives seem to be okay with gay marriage and gay people in general. I live in a conservative area and no right-wing person I know is against LGB people, and we’re talking diehard MAGA people here.

That said, trans is a totally different story! The only people I know who support hardcore trans ideology and gender ideology are very left wing people. And maybe that’s the thing: the more LGB people align themselves with transgenderism, the more support they’ll lose with conservative heterosexuals.

But for now, there are too many high-level conservatives who are LGB, or have family members who are (cf. Dick Cheney!), so I just don’t think the anti-LGB sentiment is there the way anti-abortion and anti-gender ideology views are.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

whereas most conservatives seem to be okay with gay marriage and gay people in general.

Really...? That seems so unlikely to me because a lot of my family members are both diehard conservative and diehard homophobic. Some of them are very old, though, which might explain it.

[–]Tikiri 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was thinking more in a general sense: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/1004629612/a-record-number-of-americans-including-republicans-support-same-sex-marriage

Now, that’s still a much smaller percentage of R support for gay marriage (55%) than D support (83%), but it’s also a 10% increase since 2015, which I think is quite significant. And it is a majority, which seems realistic to me.

And of course, my opinions are very influenced by my own experiences: the conservative people I know who support same-sex marriage are all middle aged and younger. I don’t really know that many older people, and the older (70+) folks who support it are Dem/left-leaning. Also, I live in California which may be a whole different thing altogether!😂

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! Well, I'm glad if other people are more accepting than I thought they were!

Also, I live in California which may be a whole different thing altogether!😂

I live in a pretty liberal area too, although come to think of it, I think it may actually be more of a rural/urban divide-- all of the homophobic people I'm thinking of grew up in a rural area. Hmm. May have to give that some more thought.