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[–]stunaep 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

This is really over-the-top.

It's actually been a long thought of fantasy from Gay male rights activism that babies would be bred in labs and only boys allowed

You mean... like the exact fantasy radfems have of getting rid of all males and growing girls in a lab? Except the difference is that I have never seen this in gay rights activism before because it's not a tenet---it's a joke---whereas for radfems this is a serious goal.

There is a reason why the harshest critic of gay men that are Republican yet also want to stomp on women's rights exist...and that is because he is still wearing his mask. ;)

It's a common theme for straight people in general to call very evil heterosexual men "secretly gay". It's common on that website too. They often imply that there is something "gay" about heterosexual men mistreating women. "If you were really straight enough to love me, you'd treat me well, but you're not so you must not be straight" is the gist. "You respect your heterosexual male friends more than me so you must be gay." Sacred heterosexuality is presented as the ideal, and any failure of the heterosexual male is deemed homosexuality. Homosexuality is treated as a flaw within otherwise normal heterosexual males.

These are immutable biological traits being treated as character flaws. Notice the parallels between the heterosexual female-supremacist and TRA (who, surprise, are mostly heterosexual) rhetoric. It's cut and dry homophobia. We're caught in the middle of a shit-flinging contest between heterosexual males and females and somehow in the end they try to make it our fault.

Neither of these groups (radfems or TRAs) are on our side. We need to focus on getting OUR voices heard instead of uplifting radical feminists. The situation where Karen Davis's followers bullied Arty Morty was a travesty, but we can't let them silence us. Yes, radfems don't support the T. But not for the same reasons as us. They're conservative and homophobic and are not our allies. They ally with traditional religious conservative homophobes and spout mirrored rhetoric. And they're heterosexuals so their numbers are much greater than ours. But actual resistance, resistance that's going to be able to gain traction and actually push back against transsexualism, has to come from us.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There is a reason why the harshest critic of gay men that are Republican yet also want to stomp on women's rights exist... and that is because he is still wearing his mask. ;)

It's a common theme for straight people in general to call very evil heterosexual men "secretly gay".

I've seen it too, and I hate it. People calling homophobic politicians like Mike Pence secretly gay. It feels like pushing the blame of homophobia onto gay people.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, although unfortunately I've talked to LGB people in real life who insist on this, too. Sure it's sometimes a thing... but only for a minority of homophobic people. It's not always self-hating "projection" going on, sometimes it's just hatred of others.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That bothers me as well. Do you think gag men would be homophobic if society wasn't homophobic?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This place overwhelmingly doesn’t uplift radical feminism.