DiscussionWhat do you guys think of Muslim immigration?

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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Except not. People have the right to live in their country and to proceed with legal migration, but they have not right to mass immigrate illegally into another, that's not a right, that's invasion, and it is very destructive. My values are very far from the right, let alone far right. You're displaying the same habit of woke leftist , thinking ayone not supporting mass immigration and wanting to maintain historical identity of one country, must to be a nazi. It's so stupid and dangerous thinking

You're american right? You live in a country of migrations, USA has not ethnic identity except the native, that europeans turned into a marginal group into their own land, it is very different from an old country with a strong cultural and ethnic history and there is nothing nazis in wanting to defend and maintain it. Its only seen as nazi cause it is related to europeans, and in this day and age saying to support anything specifically european is considered evil, people wouldn't have the same reaction if an african population wanted to maintain their identity. That's the real racism,

And again, muslim in USA are much fewer, richer and much more selected, USA hasn't had the mass muslim immigration leading to self-segregation like Europe has. You cannot compare, they don't represent islamic cultures like the more normal people in EU. Islamic fundamentalists support killing for gay sex or changing religion, how is that not barbaric to you? How is oppressing people, their freedom and injustily discriminate them, in the name of some arabic middle ages ideology not barbaric.

By thinking anyone can live anywhere, you just support very fundamentalist culture gaining influence in the minority of liberal countries with western values and ending up destryong those values. The left does support far right in the name of identity.

[–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

USA has not ethnic identity except the native, that europeans turned into a marginal group into their own land, it is very different from an old country with a strong cultural and ethnic history and there is nothing nazis in wanting to defend and maintain it. Its only seen as nazi cause it is related to europeans, and in this day and age saying to support anything specifically european is considered evil, people wouldn't have the same reaction if an african population wanted to maintain their identity. That's the real racism,

Oh my god. I literally see this kind of argument in EVERY single Nazi place and from any racist right-wing conservative, I 100% bet that you actually hate mixed-race children because it "helps exterminate and corrupting the white race"

As I said, I don't care about race, I care about culture or religion. I advocate for stricter immigration rules in Europe for Muslim men, but that has nothing to do with their race, if they were as civilized as Muslim Americans then I would have literally 0 problem. Your reasoning is very dangerous and I'm actually done with this website, I'm thankful that I made this post because now I see that there are some Nazi wannabes here. I will still support dropping the T and LGBA but not gonna step into this website anymore, goodbye. do not bother to reply

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"I 100% bet that you actually hate mixed-race children because it "helps exterminate and corrupting the white race""

This type of thinking culdn't be more far from me, but thanks for behaving like the usual emotional dogmatic person making horrible accusation and strawmans to anyone not agreeing with your thinking.

Of course the problem with islam is ideology not race, arabs are white too and any race can be a muslims, even though the wokes don't get it and defend the muslims are they were a specific rate.

There is a different between caring about the individual race (which is something americans are obsessed about more than anyone else in the world) and actually caring about the native ethnical identity of a country. Ethnic identity is more than race, it does include particular genetic traits ( but as said arabs are white too and they aren't europeans), but also history, culture, tradition , it is a whole thing.

The different between an historical old population with strong cultural identity, and a place made by migrants who oppressed and robbed their native as USA, it is immense, and there is nothing nazis or racist in respecting the preservation of a population and historical identity.

I support controlled migrations because a country has right to borders control from invasion, and mass immigration just destroy a country identity, culture (especially with culture incompatible) and pose a lot of safety and fuctional risk, unlike legal ordered one.

The only dangerous thing is the leftist emotional and extremist view on migration, which will only lead to destruction of european civilization, because you think anything related to preserve land of european descents is evil and nazis.

[–]Athelhilda4Questioning 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Elvira95, I would like to add that, unlike how it is in the US, most countries don’t see moving somewhere as magically making you a part of the culture or local ethnic groups. I’ve considered moving to Poland in the past. I can learn to speak fluent Polish, I can adopt Polish culture as my own, I can attain Polish citizenship, I can even marry a Polish person and have half Polish children. At the end of the day, however, I’m an American of majority German and Irish heritage who has lived in America all my life. I will never really be Polish. I don’t think a lot of Americans (let’s be honest, most of the people who are for mass immigration into Europe are Americans or Americanized Europeans) realize that.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely I will move a different country but even if I would take the citizenship of that country, it would just a paper, I will always be italian and sicilian this is my ethnic and origins you cannot change it by moving and earning a piece of a paper, ethnic is something made in thousands of years, you are born with it, you take after your parents. Not even being born in that country makes you ethnically part of that country, only in citizenship sense.

Americans who are for mass invasion of europe and call a nazis anyone who care about the ethnical preservation of a country are insufferable. It's insane being accused of being for white purity or against mixed races people simply for supporting the identity of a country, because for them is all about race and skin tone, while ethnic is more than that, it is the origin and history of a population (both cultural and genetics)and it is linked with a land. I get is hardto get when you are from young country fomed by european immigrants, but it isn't about skin tone

[–]Athelhilda4Questioning 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You claim to care about culture, and I presume that includes your culture. What makes you think immigrants are going to adopt your culture? They already have their own (and in many Muslim countries, the religion IS the culture), why would they become culturally German or French?