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[–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I will be honest here, even though I enjoy seeing people opposing TQ+ and pronouns shit...I don't enjoy seeing it from conservatives mainly because I know that if they get the chance, they are going to erase LGB rights too.

This is why I came here, because I know that even though most of us are probably not liberals and conservatives, we are all LGB here so if somebody says "TQ+ is rubbish" and I support them, at least I know that I'm not supporting a homophobe using a scapegoat.

I hope that people understand what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that even though conservatives are agreeing with us about TQ+, and even though more than 70% of Americans support gay marriage...they still do not recognize that LGB ISN'T TQ+, they all see them as the same thing and that makes them a danger to our rights, they only reason why they focus on hating transgenders now is that gay rights aren't controversial or troubling like the T is

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really don't think they're the monolith you make them out to be. With regard to gay rights and gay people in general I've seen four distinct camps among American conservatives:
-the "classical liberals" who champion individual freedoms and are pro- gay marriage (but are probably anti- compelled gay cakes)
-the idgaf crowd, which I suspect is by far the biggest group; similar to the above group but less civic-minded and mostly concerned only with issues that directly affect them
-the people you named, the ones who don't understand the difference between same sex attraction and transgenderism; my theory is that this group is basically the same as the last one and may have passively supported gay rights in the past, but no longer do because they think we're all on team trans now
-and finally the very religious and/or traditional types who see homosexuality and gender ideology as just two different flavors of degeneracy.

I feel strongly that we ought to consider the first two groups our allies, and do everything we can to show the third group the many fundamental differences between LGB and TQ+.

[–]Aurelius 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I consider myself conservative, which me l makes me an outcast on all sides. I just like smaller government and more freedom and self sufficiency. I don't hate anyone either, I like people and I judge everyone on a case by case basis, giving them the benefit of the doubt. But I understand that mentioning my meeting conservative puts others at a distance but I've gotten used to it. I do wish to see everyone getting along more and having a good time instead of fighting so much like so many do today.