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[–]chandra 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Lesbians say 'we don't want to sleep with transwomen,' and TRAs think they're being so clever and reasonable when they dodge the point and say 'stop being crazy, no-one is saying you have to sleep with someone with a penis.' I.e. lesbians are still expected to be open to transwomen who've had fake vagina surgery.

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 27 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 5 fun28 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

It’s crazy because, while I would never sleep with a trans person for several reasons, I would rather sleep with one without a “neovagina”, if for some reason I had to lol. Neovaginas are… idk if I can even use the word I want to use without breaking a rule.

[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, same.

I'm bi, but I don't want to date a trans person for the same reason I won't date someone into MLM or Scientology.

But if I had to, I'd rather have the one that didn't (yet) have horrible disfiguring body mods.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Would you say this is because you distinguish between medically transed individuals and the only self-IDing/pre-transition ones?

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, I’d never want to be with either pre or post op. But the idea of interacting at all with a neovagina (or a neophallus for that matter) is genuinely repulsive to me. Not because of how I view trans ideology or trans people at all, but because I “educated myself” about neo genitals and quickly came to the conclusion that both were a hard no for me.

Honestly pre op/no op people are (only slightly) more frustrating than post op people to me, generally. I just would rather have sex with natural genitals

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, I’d never want to be with either pre or post op. But the idea of interacting at all with a neovagina (or a neophallus for that matter) is genuinely repulsive to me. Not because of how I view trans ideology or trans people at all, but because I “educated myself” about neo genitals and quickly came to the conclusion that both were a hard no for me.

Honestly pre op/no op people are (only slightly) more frustrating than post op people to me, generally. I just would rather have sex with natural genitals

Yeah, I totally get that. I've educated myself too; With google image search. What can be seen with just that is a good enough reason to pass on trans.

[–]MyLongestJourney 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I totally get that. I've educated myself too; With google image search.

What has been seen,can never be unseen.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

highway to nowhere?