LesbianEldena Doubleca5t: "dear lesbians, transwomen have never tried to force you to sleep with them, you're just being irrational"

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Concerned about the # of people on tumblr, reddit, twitter, and dating apps saying that lesbians can have penises and be sexually attracted to penises so I would like to say, on behalf of actual lesbians everywhere, self-proclaimed Dick-having and Dick-loving “Lesbians”: it is ok if you have a penis or want to have sex with someone with a penis. We never said that was lesbophobic or misogynistic, just don’t be rude to actual lesbians about it.

The only reason people get shit from actual lesbians for saying they have a dick or love dick is because they either

A) ARE rude to actual lesbians about it

B) Imply that not all lesbians are homosexual females, there is no meaningful difference between female homosexuality and female bisexuality, and that female homosexuality is not a legitimate sexual orientation worthy of its own name

C) Try to speak for ALL LGB in denying the nature of same-sex attraction

But having a penis or being attracted to penises is not an issue in and of itself.

(Also: "Lesbians, stop trying to speak for all lesbians and listen when I speak on behalf of 'trans sapphics everywhere.'")

[–]MBMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That last paragraph is what struck me as well. It's mindboggling how that didn't even occur to him.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly, I think that a lot of people-- particularly men-- have never believed there is any such thing as a lesbian... OR a bisexual woman. For real. They think that ALL women are straight. That, to be a woman, everything about you must revolve around men, your sexuality included. Attraction to other women basically doesn't count. After all, sex between women isn't really even sex, right? Just foreplay, at best. Till the real thing (i.e., a dick) comes along.

That's why, whereas bi men are typically dismissed as "really gay", bi women are typically dismissed as "really straight". Just slutty.

I wish that I was making this up.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh 100%. I believe this is how the vast majority of people think. Bi men are really gay. Bi women are really straight. And lesbians just hate men and are simultaneously a porn category for men. And that LGB is all about kink generally. I don’t think most people take the concept of sexual orientation seriously.

And while straight men fetishize lesbianism as a porn category, a lot of straight women fetishize lesbianism as an asexual vacation from men.