Targeting / Harassment@BearPArtyNYC gets attacked for defending gay spaces from TRA activists

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[–]chazzstrong 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I just seriously fucking hate these people. Like I cannot dislike them any more. I would not frown if they met a horrific end.
If they were mauled to death by a wild animal, I would spend the rest of my life saying said animal is my spirit animal.
I mean it, I absolutely fucking loathe them.

[–]MyLongestJourney 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Same here. I do make an effort to make a distinction between decent trans people and the TRAs though.I would not wish any kind of harm to Blair White for example . But to the obnoxious fucks who try to erase the importance of biological sex ? I wish every kind of harm.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've come to the conclusion (clarified for me by the ongoing debate I am now having on The Glinner Update) that this isn't a matter of decent trans people vs obnoxious trans people. Much as I loathe the latter and can feel sympathy for the former.

Because the real problem isn't individuals at all.

It's the ideology itself.

Ultimately, transgenderism holds that biological sex must give way to gender. And gender is the source of both women's status as inferior, and the stigmatization of same-sex attraction.

So, regardless of how nice the person espousing it is, how genuinely troubled they are by their own sex, or whether they'd ever dream of taking this ideology to its logical conclusion... I'm going to oppose transgenderism on principle. Because it is fundamentally poison.

As long as people with dysphoria don't go this route, they have my every sympathy, and I will support them.

But not when they choose to deal with this problem by fucking poisoning everybody else.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the real problem isn't individuals at all.

It's the ideology itself.

Ultimately, transgenderism holds that biological sex must give way to gender. And gender is the source of both women's status as inferior, and the stigmatization of same-sex attraction.

This is exactly it. Picking out individuals is pointless. If they all share the same ideology, that biological sex is to be erased and replaced with gender identity, which in turn wouldn't exist without the harmful expectations imposed upon women, then target the ideology. You can at least hold a debate that way.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the real problem isn't individuals at all.

It's the ideology itself.

Completely agree. I have this attitude with most other belief systems, as well. I think that an individual can be a kind, thoughtful, caring person and still subscribe to Christianity, but Christianity will still be toxic regardless. Likewise, I think an individual could believe in gender identity and still be a kind, thoughtful, caring person. But gender identity, as a concept, is still fundamentally homophobic.

The kind, caring individual participants in any belief system nonetheless enable the belief system to spread and harm more people.

[–]chazzstrong 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't even necessarily mean 'trans' people, of which I doubt very many of these 'TRA's actually are...it's just this pseudo-science, full-crazy gender spectrum crowd. The same ones that want to sexualize children, the same ones that try to legitimize sex work...I mean at this point they have more-or-less fully engulfed what was once the Liberal side of politics pushing us sane people out until we lie in uncomfortable orbit with Conservatives and...I just wish ill will upon them every time I think something like 'Hrm, Alex Jones has a point' or unironically agree with someone who uses the word 'God' as a noun and not a verb.