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[–][deleted] 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If sexual orientation was influenced and built by our culture then everyone would be straight because that's the sexual orientation that our culture has tried to enforce for hundreds or thousands of years.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. They always gloss over this part.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why must we return to the "If exposure to gay people makes kids gay, why am I not straight after exposure to straight people all my life" rebuttal? Why can't we be done with this? I'm not gay because of society or culture or the way I was raised, I'm gay because I'm attracted to men and not women.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Especially when you consider that most countries have criminalised homosexuality at one point.

[–]KingDickThe2nd 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The reason why some people say that homosexuality is influenced by culture is because Queer theorists are trying to include a bunch of different unconnected phenomenon together as one phenomenon (homosexuality).

To explain the differences between the phenomenon, they make the assertion that there are different types of homosexualites that exist in different societies. That these differences are caused by culture as they believe it massively shapes sexuality.

Numerous researchers studying the social construction of same-sex relationships have suggested that the concept of homosexuality would best be rendered as “homosexualities.” They document that same-sex relations have been and continue to be organised in distinctly categorical ways by different societies in different eras.

These variations are grouped by cultural anthropologist Stephen O. Murray into three separate modes of association:

Egalitarian, features two partners with no relevance to age. Additionally, both play the same socially-accepted sex role as heterosexuals of their own sex. This is exemplified by relationships currently prevalent in western society between partners of similar age and gender. Gender structured features each partner playing a different gender role. This is exemplified by traditional relations between men in the Mediterranean Basin, the Middle East and Central and South Asia, as well as two-spirit or shamanic gender-changing practices seen in native societies. Albania also has a similar practice where a woman may choose to be an “Albanian Virgin” and be given all the rights and entitlements of a man. In North America, this is best represented by the butch/femme practice. See Two-Spirit, and Hijra. Age structured features partners of different ages, usually one adolescent and the other adult. This is exemplified by pederasty among the Classical Greeks or those engaged in by novice samurai with more experienced warriors; southern Chinese boy-marriage rites; and ongoing Central Asian and Middle Eastern practices.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody is saying you have to like vaginas

Except that this is what Jax is saying. He is also saying that homosexuality "doesn’t make biological sense".

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not a bad choice of word. It’s just your brain on trans sweaty.

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If our “culture” (which is some monolithic fiction in these fools’ heads) shaped our sexuality, riddle me this: why has every single documented consisted mostly of heterosexuals, a minority of bisexuals, an even smaller minority of homosexuals, and a smattering of people with no interest in sex? It’s almost like this is a biologic reality and not a social experiment…

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gay people's existence doesn't make biological sense.

A TRA talking about biology and making sense? That's a laugh. It's not too often I encounter a group so anti natural biology(look at the animal kingdom) and rationality with an attitude to gay people practically bordering on eugenic.

Your sexual orientation can work however you want

No, that's not how any of this works. Your sexual orientation will do to you whatever it damn well pleases, whether you want it to or not. You are a slave to it until either you or your libido dies in old age.

Also, I personally believe people are born with a predisposition to developing a particular orientation. And for many people, these indications are obvious even before puberty. It was for me.