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[–]lunarstrain 21 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

The amount of women who think gay men will be satisfied with a picture of a semi-realistic dildo is astonishing.

[–]chandra 16 insightful - 13 fun16 insightful - 12 fun17 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

Of course they will! Gay men like "penis," which TRAs have redefined to mean anything phallic in shape that can be used for sex. Any gay men who still limit penises to the sex organ that males are born with must not have received the latest TRA update patch to their sexuality.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

anything phallic in shape that can be used for sex

Time to start sending unsolicited dick pics of carrots and cucumbers to the TRAs. Surely that's close enough!

[–]GenderSpecial 15 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Lol @ “some guys like front hole action” - not if they’re gay princess

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hello friends, may I ask you how to pose my female body naked and provocatively towards gay males? I got paid for sex work before, but I don't know what I'm doing now that I'm pretending to be a gay dude and my targets don't want it.

The replies, OMFG!

Send a pic in a sports bra or binder
Wear a dildo in a jockstrap
Sensually cover your suggestive areas
Show ass, no vag

Honey, do you really think straight women are going to be able to tell you what gets a gay man going? And do you really think that gay men want to see anything about you? Bugger off back to your misogynistic closeted homophobes and leave gay men alone.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I think my favorite one of those is "sensually cover your suggestive areas." Yeah, sure, because when a gay man on Grindr is asking for a nude, he definitely means he wants to see everything but the penis. I don't think I could roll my eyes any harder.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

After informing him that she's actually a woman and confirmed his consent to see her nude now that he has the full picture.

[–]Virginia_Plain 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It must be psychological torture to go from being someone who men paid to be with to someone who must desperately ask for tips on landing a man.

I've noticed that women who do various lines of sex work tend to like socializing with the gay community, and I know of at least two FTM people who did stripping, porn, and escorting/prostitution before transitioning. My theory is they find the gay men easier to deal with than the men who make up their clientele, and the ones I knew would talk fondly of gay men who were kind to them, helped them out etc.

Edit:This could lead to them identifying with and becoming emotionally and sexually interested in gay men, seeing them as a better alternative to heterosexual men.

Life "as a woman" might furthermore seem false to them because they would have to take on false airs as they performed for their clients. Whether they find these men attractive or agreeable is irrelevant in sex work; they must perform certain acts to get paid, and they may have to mold their personalities to fit the situation the clients are looking for (e.g. being submissive or dominant). They may think living as a gay man would allow them a better chance to become romantically involved with the gay male friend groups they have, as well as providing them an opportunity to escape the "falseness" they attribute to heterosexuality in their line of work. This may be the "loving men as a gay man" that some FTM people are talk about.

I'm not saying gay men are all these sweet, otherworldly angels that poor widdle women can't help but fall head over heels in love with. But I do think that these are factors that may play into certain FTM women's stories.

I think about a car ride I shared with one woman (who I like on a personal level, despite displaying a lot of the behaviors we talk about here) who shared stories of how difficult life with her ex-husband was, and how sex work was always striking a balance between making very good money and dealing with unpredictable and sometimes frightening clients. She liked hanging out with gay guys, and told me that she thought one of my friends was very handsome and sweet.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the big thing is gay men treat them like people while most straight men treat them like sex objects. Especially if they're women working in some line of sex work, they want to date someone who doesn't act like their clients.

Then they go off and treat gay men like sex objects, basically doing to gay men what was done to them that they didn't like.

And of course, it'd be way easier for them to find straight men who treat them like people than it is for them to magically convince gay men to date them.