Indoctrination / DoublethinkYou can deny consent! ... but it's still transphobic, tho!

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[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

telling someone that they must give consent or else be a transphobe is not giving them a fair choice. That's coercion. Everyone deserves the right to deny sexual consent to anyone else for any reason without question or repercussion of any kind, and labeling them as a transphobe for exercising their right to say no is a repercussion.

[–]JulienMayfair 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Transphobia these days = Failure to comply with my wishes at all times

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“You can deny consent, but then I will shame you and brow beat you with false accusations of bigotry until you give into my demands and give me your consent, and if you continue to relent I will call up your employer and get you fired."

All this fire-bending TRAs engage in is quite significant.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I tell someone no and that person then attacks me for that no, then that person is not respecting my ability to consent. The end. Doesn't fucking matter why I said no, I said no. That's the end of the fucking discussion. I don't have to explain anything. Anything else is sexual harassment.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess that's an interesting strategy but i don't think it will have the outcome they expect.

If the very concept of consent is transphobic they are trying to do this whole "examine your biases" moral purity shit but they are just going to peak trans 90% of the population.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Can I get a "nobody says that"

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, so we can deny consent... as long as we get trans permission first?

Do these people somehow fail to comprehend that, while having sex with another person does indeed require the consent of both parties... choosing NOT to have sex with another person doesn't? You don't need to get their agreement! IT'S NOT A NEGOTIATION.

[–]JohnWhyGay Man 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm a transphobe because this kind of transactivist ideology is legit terrifying, as is the fact that it's infecting real life and harming children.

Some things deserve to be feared.

[–]Mikulbleu 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don’t give them what they want. Fear = power. I plan on leaving my company and joining a trade, so I can speak my mind without worrying about getting canned for wrongthink

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Regarding fear-- completely agree. Respect for improving your job situation so that you have more freedom to speak; hope the transition goes well.

[–]censorshipment 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Tbf, they didn't come up with this shit. TRAs are just parroting other minority/marginalized/unattractive people who are rejected for something they can't change unless they do something drastic to appear more attractive to whoever they desire.

I used to believe and say that straight women were homophobic for not liking me back. I never had an issue with white women not liking me as a black chick, so I never said they were racists lol but I couldn't fathom why straight women didn't want me as masculine "person" with a 8" dildo hanging between my thighs. I didn't consider they wanted men to cum inside of them during sex... that was a turn on. So my sex toy wouldn't be efficient. 🥲

[–]Mikulbleu 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I once told someone on grindr “sorry I’m not interested.” My profile clearly said bottom, not into other bottoms, and this guy was like “is it because I’m black?”

[–]chazzstrong 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm to the point where I don't even fight the 'transphobic' spiel. Sure, I'm transphobic, now will you leave me alone?