Legal Rights / PoliticsMinds being lost over Florida bill

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[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

No, we don't NEED any discussion of sexuality with literal children (3-8 year olds). Most people aren't doing that though. What they're doing is discussing gender identity.

The groomer-coomers have been making this happen, and reasonable and rational people are speaking out about it finally.

Straight people were dismissed as "conservative nazis" along the way, so now LGB is trying to jump in and fight it. But we're also the scapegoats, both the aggressors and the unwilling victims. Because it was all done in our name.

So we're kinda fucked unless we just shut this down hard.

[–]dramasexual 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Is there a good way to shut this down that helps us, though? It's part of a bigger wave of coming backlash, but the bill itself looks reasonable enough that us jumping on board with the obviously hyperbolic opposition will just make us look unreasonable in the eyes of the sane straights.

I want to say the best way to fix this mess in general is to break the forced-teaming with the T, but how would we do that with this issue? Campaign for sexual orientation to be removed from the bill but leave gender identity? I feel like your average het would go "why do these people want to talk about fudgepacking with little kids so bad?"

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The problem is that the Republicans have played this game well. I would wager that it's not even mostly the LGBT themselves that are teaching this stuff. It's just that Education Departments these days are über-woke and churn out ideologically-committed functionaries to carry out The Agenda. And they have handed Republicans mountains of evidence of what they are doing. For that matter, Republicans are not wrong in saying that Education these days is dominated by the far-left.

It's going to be difficult to impossible to disentangle the LGB from the T on this. Hell, even a lot of gay people don't understand that the gender identity stuff is the real target of this bill.

I'm not sure that the smart thing to do isn't just to let the Republicans have this victory because, like you say, fighting it tooth and nail makes it look like we want to discuss gay sex with 5-9 year olds.

The real lesson we should learn is that you should never even give the appearance of going after people's kids. I was a teacher, and I knew NEVER to do that. It was just sheer arrogance that led teachers to teach this stuff to young kids, and we know that arrogance is a primary TRA trait.

[–]dramasexual 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah that's kind of where I'm leaning. We really don't need to be talking about sexual orientation with kids younger than 3rd grade anyway.

The real lesson we should learn is that you should never even give the appearance of going after people's kids. I was a teacher, and I knew NEVER to do that.

Remember when the SF gay men's chorus made that We're Coming for your Children song and then acted all shocked that people didn't find that a hilarious joke? Good times.

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Remember when the SF gay men's chorus made that We're Coming for your Children song and then acted all shocked that people didn't find that a hilarious joke? Good times.

Don't forget "Drag Queen Story Hour," which was a bad idea to begin with, and then they didn't vet the people they had reading and ended up having drag queens with sex offender and other criminal histories reading in front of kids. That's just HANDING conservatives ways to bash us. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.