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[–]censorshipment 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

But will they fuck??

So many best friend pairs would be great couples, better for each other than their significant others, but they aren't sexually attracted to each other due to their sexual orientations. People want to fuck, not just love... so this romantic orientation bullshit doesn't mean shit to most folks.

[–]artetolife[S] 21 insightful - 7 fun21 insightful - 6 fun22 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

You're not supposed to care about sex because it's more uwu romantic that way! These people see relationships as theoretical, they don't think about how the crap they pick up from social media would play out in real life.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fundamentally it's a rejection of physicality. These people are not grounded in the physical world.

[–]fuck_reddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a prof. that calls them “demons”, disembodied beings of air that think they can survive on pure intellect and argumentation.

[–]Rosefield 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well actually you are supposed to care about sex...but only for trans people. UwU girl penis is different than boy penis!1 UwU gay man like vaginas!1 Gender loons are prudish when it comes to same sex relationships. Then suddenly sex between 2 men or 2 women is eeew & icky because trans people of the opposite sex are excluded. They want to weasel their way into the bedrooms of homosexuals and only sex with trans people is allowed. Everything else is transphobic genital fetishism.

Ugh fucking disgusting. These homophobic monsters are so vile & repulsive.

[–]CleverFoolOfEarth 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

For them, relationships are hypothetical. The vast majority are either 14 or have a repulsive and/or very boring personality.

[–]Chocolatepudding 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There seems to be a large number into their twenties who have never had sex, going by their subs at any rate

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

A lot of straight women will do things that are kind of romantic with their close friends. That's essentially what you get when you remove all sexual desire.

I don't think men do it as often though.

[–]opinioncloset 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Used to be more common in the past. Lots of very effusive platonic love letters between men in the archives. They unfortunately often get interpreted as "secretly gay" by a lot of modern people because they can't conceptualize the idea of close male friendships

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They unfortunately often get interpreted as "secretly gay" by a lot of modern people because they can't conceptualize the idea of close male friendships

Which is sad, but that is the reality. So many people are unaware that two men can be extremely close friends and love each other like they are brothers. Women who struggle with understanding this fact don’t interact with men that much, or only know men who are socially inept. But there are men who cannot understand this as well, probably due to a lack of male role models in childhood and not knowing how to maintain friendships with other men.

I’m close with my best friend, who is a straight man. We tell each other things we don’t tell others, and we’re both single. My family makes jokes about him being my boyfriend, but they know we’re just friends. But it wouldn’t surprise me if people thought we were lovers, because heaven forbid two single men be friends with each other.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Men don’t do it as much, but we do go out to dinner together and do other things. Men don’t tell each other "I love you", except for family members, but our friendly gestures say it for us. We communicate differently. Sometimes to a point where two men are close friends, and people mistake them for a couple because they tell each other things they won’t tell their partners/spouses.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It was pretty common in the past. Horatio Nelson for instance on his death bed wanted to be kissed by his best friend who had taken over command after he had been shot. Guy was totally straight in his many romantic/sexual escapades at least from what we can see. It was just considered to be more of an affectionate thing for close friends at the time. Considering he was dying despite his vainglorious nature I assumed he was still also scared and needed intimacy from a close friend.

British media though much later tried to censor this fact because it could hurt the image of masculinity a national martyr should have.

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People don’t realize how common kissing was in the pre-modern past, and not as a gesture of intimacy. It was part of the liturgy for the Patriarch of Constantinople and the Byzantine Emperor to share “the kiss of peace.” A less formal variation existed in the West between the Pope and kings. Something tells me they weren’t all closet cases…

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it was common to give a kiss to your lord when giving homage in medieval Europe too. Right on the lips lol.

[–]Athelhilda4Questioning 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my entire life. Yes, people can have relationships with other people they aren’t attracted to. It’s called being FRIENDS or a FAMILY. If you live with your friends, normal people call this being ROOMMATES.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Ofcourse the one posting it is a tim. Everyone in that thread is an idiot.

labels aren't fluid, they just aren't as restrictive as most people think they are. Their meanings can change over time and people can learn new niches of the label (like microlabels) that they didn't know before. They do have some set meaning, because they are labels after all /nm :)

Labels aren't restrictive because of the labels within the labels that have labels guys!!! 🤡

I think we should just remake a new movement with the normal straights and embrace being super. No more LGB just Super Saiyan.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What they fail to realize is that changing the definition of a label does not change the reality of the people who are labeled that. It just deprives them of a way to easily describe themselves.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

WHY BOTHER THEN??

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. Doesn’t exist. Sex is the element that binds a romantic or sexual relationship together. When too people live together, rely on each other emotionally, and do not have sex with each other, that’s not a relationship; that co-dependency. Not shaming people who do that, but it is what it is.

I would never marry a woman. But let’s say I did for financial reasons or to prevent a disaster or some other BS. The romance isn’t there. Not only do I not want to have sex with her, I don’t want to share a bed with her and I also don’t want to sit on her lap or have her sit on mine. I just don’t see the point in marrying someone if there is not going to be any sex involved, giving the legal and fiscal implications of marriage or even cohabitation.

[–]Tikiri 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

“Romantic divergence exists” - can someone explain this to me (I’m serious)?

[–]chandra 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

From the context I guess it's another term for the 'split-attraction model:' you can be 'romantically' attracted to a sex without being 'sexually' attracted to it (e.g. wanting to date women romantically whilst having no sexual desire for them).

I believe it originated as a way of articulating the desires of 'asexuals' who still want to date, and bisexuals who only want relationships with one sex. But these people take it to the extreme and full-on believe that everyone literally has a 'romantic' orientation which is completely separate to their 'sexual' orientation and so you can get people who are e.g. sexually attracted only to men but who only want to have romantic relationships with women. Which sounds like a load of nonsense to me, honestly, but it's a part of these people's belief system.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would it really have been so difficult for people to just say that they're straight but uninterested in sex or bi but only looking for long term stuff with women? I mean, I've been sexually attracted to and involved with some people who I'm not interested in a romantic relationship with, this isn't much different.

[–]CleverFoolOfEarth 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unrelated, but I love your flair

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I like to think that the famous quote, "I think, therefore I am" is incomplete, with the original being "I think, therefore I am a criminal" Cogito ergo sum scelestus.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

...yeah... that's called being friends with people... oh my god are they 8 y.o...

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

'Homoromantic' is a big word for someone who doesn't know not to write 'an homosexual'.