ColonizationAnother reason to drop the TQ+ it attracts zoophiles

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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm tempted to call troll on that one but the pile of steaming excrement that is TQ+ has brought so many creeps, freaks and perverts out of the closet that it would not be a shock if it were true.

[–]Datachost 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Troll or not, it's an argument that's been made in the past.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I would never do anything without consent.

Lmao what?! How tf can a dog consent to anything sexual with a human 🤡 I hope this is a troll, and the use of neopronouns makes me think they have to be; how else could one person contain that much crazy 😧

[–]HelloMomo 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think this actually kind of illustrates the limits of the "only consent matters" model. Because clearly animals do mate (with each other) and do have ways of signaling that they're interested and whatnot.

It's like statutory rape. It seems odd to say that someone "can't consent" when they did consent. Like, doesn't that very clearly demonstrate that consent is not actually thought to be the only relevant factor at play?

I think that the problem is, within the "only consent matters" model, the word "consent" has been inflated to mean more than just "agreed to it". I think there's 2 pillars to what we consider "proper consent". The first one is straight-up agreeing to it. The second one is a little hard to put into words, but I think I would best term it as something like "being on the same page." A sort of understanding of where the other person is coming from, and what they want out of this. And when the parties are so different, that's impossible.

Teenagers can consent to sex with other teenagers, and dogs can consent to sex with other dogs, but neither can consent to sex with a grown-ass man. So within that framework, the issue is not that they can't consent _period_—it's not that they fundamentally lack that ability. The issue is that the scenario with the grown-ass man is uneven a very fundamental way, and that some level of parity between the parties is also considered to be important.

So I think it would both clearer and more honest if we just said, "Hey, some level of parity between the parties is also important," rather than sticking to the narrative of "consent is the one and only thing."

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In Sweden, at least, there is the idea that you have to be able to understand the action and its consequences to give consent. Animals and children cannot give consent, because they aren't capable of understanding ramifications. Plus the risk of manipulation and abuse is astronomical.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for this thoughtful reply. Consent is a very important bedrock principle but some people take a hard line approach that seems disconnected with reality in a large amount of cases. The rules we are to be governed by must comport with basic notions of justice and be practicably applicable, especially when dealing with as serious a subject as sexual assault.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, the mythical third gender: dogf*ckers

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't read all the way through because I was petting my dog and the time and yeesh. My immediate thought was that this has to be satire but then I also know that this is reddit whose admins and power mods are now responsible for me having to live with the burden of knowing what "baby furs," that there are enough of them out there to have a community and be in positions of authority and influence over young, impressionable people. Oh, and that because truth is stranger than fiction, you sound like to crazy conspiracy theorist if you ever try to explain the concept of Aimee Challenor to anyone because no one in their right mind wants to believe it.

In any case, can our lovely "allies" pick up the pace and peak just a little bit faster so I don't have to see sexual degeneracy like this tie itself to LGB in anyone's mind?